Well we do have a clue...more than one actually detailing how poweful the GPU in the next Xbox will be. We have a general idea where the GPU lies and sources point to it being weaker than the one in the PS4. . Just because you don't like what you hear, it doesn't make it false. 

Anyway I find it funny how quickly people jumped to compare the specs. It's irrelevant. When Ubisoft says the consoles are similar he's talking about features, not technical specifications. The consoles are similar in that department too, bu there are some pretty big differences.

Actually I do not care if Durango has a 7970 GPU, what I have a problem with is people who never take the time to actually research anything but blindly go by what someone tells them on the net.  I do not expect anyone to actually have followed the links I provided or actually try to see if VGleaks data could be incorrect.  Instead I expect people like you to make a comment, happy in ignorance or the inability to refute what I claimed and feel proud of your comment.

Instead of using the fanboy method to refute what I stated, actually show me where I am wrong or show me why VGleaks data is correct instead.  Give examples, show links, find facts things like that.  If you cannot do those things then your comment goes on the endless pile of people who make comments that do not know anything about what they are talking about.

I actually made this post to see if anyone can actually refute what I found because I could not.

Not what Im saying.  I honestly dont care which one is more powerful.  PS3 is more powerful than the X360 but it didnt show most of the time.  all im saying is he doesnt know, nor do you what the specs are in the NeXbox.  Until MSFT confirms specs it is dumb to say 50% more powerful.  If they are similar then it will be very little difference, not 50%. Im not going to sit here saying it is weaker or mor powerful.  If they are similar i expect it to be pretty much like this generation where software and services matter.

What the fuck is this?

The Paypal here needs you have a International Credit Card but it works...

I'm in... 30 days sig and a mino apology.

That is what happen when you believe in fake rumors... the dual-gpu stuff is proved fake in minutes by the own leaker.

Read here: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5257167

If those other rumors are false then what make this one from VGleaks legit if their info is inaccurate

SIMD

Each of the four SIMDs in the shader core is a vector processor in the sense of operating on vectors of threads. A SIMD executes a vector instruction on 64 threads at once in lockstep. Per thread, however, the SIMDs are scalar processors, in the sense of using float operands rather than float4 operands. Because the instruction set is scalar in this sense, shaders no longer waste processing power when they operate on fewer than four components at a time. Analysis of Xbox 360 shaders suggests that of the five available lanes (a float4 operation, co-issued with a float operation), only three are used on average.

Then follow that piece up with this diagram from their article

http://www.vgleaks.com/durango-gpu/sc_durango/

This picture from vgleaks shows a SC with 4 SIMD in an array.  If each SIMD executes 64 threads per cycle than that would mean the SC for the Durango chip are 4 CU units per SC since a CU unit has 4 SIMD that execute 16 threads per cycle which amounts to 64 threads total.

So who is right and who is wrong.  Who is disproving leaks and who is verifying leaks.  What parts are verified, is it the diagram or the synopsis.   Who verified the leak and what question was asked as verification.  None of this type of info is out there because I looked.  Instead you have people stating it’s verified but no more detail to know exactly what.  Then you have a major source getting their data screwed up which doesn’t exactly look good when people are trying to claim the leak is right. 

Well play on then

If MS announce a console which does not have the specs rumored(CPU and GPU numbers) I win and vice versa applies for me. Do we have a deal on that?

"That do not know anything about what they are talking about." is supposed to "That doesn't know anything about what they're talking about." Just thought I'd point that out, cause it's ironic. 

Anyways, it's not a fanboy comment. It's simply called common sense, however, apparently since some people lack it, suddenly it's not common anymore. So I'll just say that logically Microsoft couldn't afford to put a $400 GPU in a console, that would cause heat problems, and consume a ton of power and would be loud as hell, and price it competitively, unless the rest of its components were shit. Even if they were, the console will still cost around $600 and that's with a few hundreds of dollars lost, and we all saw how that worked out for Sony.

In short, stop fantasizing. 

If your being serious.. that's according to the leaked specs. 1.8 TFlops for PS4 vs 1.2 TFlops for the Durango. And 18 CU vs 12 CU. Which comes to a 50% increase. The bandwidth comes to something similar to a 50% increase when ESRAM is factored as well. Maybe Ubisoft knows of a bump in Durango specs or maybe the leaks are still the current situation? Hence my question.

True. I actually meant to say 50% 'more' which would be 2/3rds.