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I starting to get tired of Suda's game's plots, they feel very similar.



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Rafux said:
I starting to get tired of Suda's game's plots, they feel very similar.


Where's the similarity between this, Shadows of the Damned, Lollipop Chainsaw, Liberation Maiden and No More Heroes? o.O



famousringo said:
hinch said:
famousringo said:
pezus said:
chris_wing said:
Suda's Nintendo love is no more?

I think the love affair was over as soon as he saw No more Heroes sales numbers


No More Heroes sold better on Wii than any Suda game on 360 or PS3

Lollipop Chainsaw.

http://www.siliconera.com/2012/08/27/lollipop-chainsaw-breaks-grasshoppers-records-with-700000-shipped/


Right, 700k, split between two different platforms.

NMH (Wii) > LPC (PS3) > NMH2 (Wii) > LPC (360) > SotD (PS3) > NMH:HP (PS3) > SotD (360) > NMH:RZ (PS3) > NMH:HP (360)

Tally them up.

Wii: Two titles sell 890k units or 445k on average.

PS3: Four titles sell 900k units or 225k on average.

360: Three titles sell 510k units or 170k on average.

Uh.. wut? That was old data btw, LPC sold around 810k copies (if VGchartz data is correct). 460k - PS3, 350k - Xbox on ONE single title. It doesn't matter if it was on 2 separate platforms, it still sold better than NMH on Wii.



Wright said:
Rafux said:
I starting to get tired of Suda's game's plots, they feel very similar.


Where's the similarity between this, Shadows of the Damned, Lollipop Chainsaw, Liberation Maiden and No More Heroes? o.O


I didn't mean all games but Killer 7, No more heroes and The Killer is Dead have hired killers, sexy blondes, some political stuff and the graphics are kind of similar too, I don't know I wish Suda move on from that and do something different. Just my 2 cents.



Rafux said:
Wright said:
Rafux said:
I starting to get tired of Suda's game's plots, they feel very similar.


Where's the similarity between this, Shadows of the Damned, Lollipop Chainsaw, Liberation Maiden and No More Heroes? o.O


I didn't mean all games but Killer 7, No more heroes and The Killer is Dead have hired killers, sexy blondes, some political stuff and the graphics are kind of similar too, I don't know I wish Suda move on from that and do something different. Just my 2 cents.


I like the style, but this look like more weird than Killer7 and No More Heroes. Just look at it. The Smiles were probably the closest thing to a demon in Killer7, but in Killer is Dead, everything seem ripped off from Hell, just like Shadows of the Damned!

 

No more Heroes didn't have political stuff =P None that I remember, though.



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Wright said:
Rafux said:
Wright said:
Rafux said:
I starting to get tired of Suda's game's plots, they feel very similar.


Where's the similarity between this, Shadows of the Damned, Lollipop Chainsaw, Liberation Maiden and No More Heroes? o.O


I didn't mean all games but Killer 7, No more heroes and The Killer is Dead have hired killers, sexy blondes, some political stuff and the graphics are kind of similar too, I don't know I wish Suda move on from that and do something different. Just my 2 cents.


I like the style, but this look like more weird than Killer7 and No More Heroes. Just look at it. The Smiles were probably the closest thing to a demon in Killer7, but in Killer is Dead, everything seem ripped off from Hell, just like Shadows of the Damned!

 

No more Heroes didn't have political stuff =P None that I remember, though.


I aint hating either I usually buy and enjoy all of Suda stuff, Shadows of the Damned should arrive in my mail box in 7 days. Is kinda like my situation with Tarantino, I enjoy his movies but I whish he moves on from the grindhouse homage and do something different.



Rafux said:


I aint hating either I usually buy and enjoy all of Suda stuff, Shadows of the Damned should arrive in my mail box in 7 days. Is kinda like my situation with Tarantino, I enjoy his movies but I whish he moves on from the grindhouse homage and do something different.


Liberation Maiden and Sine More are for you, then :3



hinch said:
famousringo said:
hinch said:
famousringo said:
pezus said:
chris_wing said:
Suda's Nintendo love is no more?

I think the love affair was over as soon as he saw No more Heroes sales numbers


No More Heroes sold better on Wii than any Suda game on 360 or PS3

Lollipop Chainsaw.

http://www.siliconera.com/2012/08/27/lollipop-chainsaw-breaks-grasshoppers-records-with-700000-shipped/


Right, 700k, split between two different platforms.

NMH (Wii) > LPC (PS3) > NMH2 (Wii) > LPC (360) > SotD (PS3) > NMH:HP (PS3) > SotD (360) > NMH:RZ (PS3) > NMH:HP (360)

Tally them up.

Wii: Two titles sell 890k units or 445k on average.

PS3: Four titles sell 900k units or 225k on average.

360: Three titles sell 510k units or 170k on average.

Uh.. wut? That was old data btw, LPC sold around 810k copies (if VGchartz data is correct). 460k - PS3, 350k - Xbox on ONE single title. It doesn't matter if it was on 2 separate platforms, it still sold better than NMH on Wii.


All my numbers are from VGC data, you're the one posting old data.

And yes it matters when it's on 2 seperate platforms. Multiplat development isn't free. Distribution for two platforms isn't free either. You increase your risk of overshipping and getting returns or sales at slashed prices. 

@pezus Yes, you're right, many of those were ports and rereleases, and some of them didn't leave Japan because they were expected to sell poorly. How does that suggest Grasshopper had more success on HD consoles? Right. It doesn't.



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famousringo said:
hinch said:
famousringo said:
hinch said:
famousringo said:
pezus said:
chris_wing said:
Suda's Nintendo love is no more?

I think the love affair was over as soon as he saw No more Heroes sales numbers


No More Heroes sold better on Wii than any Suda game on 360 or PS3

Lollipop Chainsaw.

http://www.siliconera.com/2012/08/27/lollipop-chainsaw-breaks-grasshoppers-records-with-700000-shipped/


Right, 700k, split between two different platforms.

NMH (Wii) > LPC (PS3) > NMH2 (Wii) > LPC (360) > SotD (PS3) > NMH:HP (PS3) > SotD (360) > NMH:RZ (PS3) > NMH:HP (360)

Tally them up.

Wii: Two titles sell 890k units or 445k on average.

PS3: Four titles sell 900k units or 225k on average.

360: Three titles sell 510k units or 170k on average.

Uh.. wut? That was old data btw, LPC sold around 810k copies (if VGchartz data is correct). 460k - PS3, 350k - Xbox on ONE single title. It doesn't matter if it was on 2 separate platforms, it still sold better than NMH on Wii.


All my numbers are from VGC data, you're the one posting old data.

And yes it matters when it's on 2 seperate platforms. Multiplat development isn't free. Distribution for two platforms isn't free either. You increase your risk of overshipping and getting returns or sales at slashed prices. 

@pezus Yes, you're right, many of those were ports and rereleases, and some of them didn't leave Japan because they were expected to sell poorly. How does that suggest Grasshopper had more success on HD consoles? Right. It doesn't.

No, I posted that link initially because Suda went on record to say that he was happy with the sales. How is developing two games over many years cheaper than developing one on multiplat? Even if you were to factor in the cost of multiplat release with distributution, it would still be better to sell a game across mutliple platforms due to the larger installbase. And fyi after NMH (Wii), the second one sold significantly less.

Look at it this way which is better selling 890K of two games over many years (on one system) vs 810k on a single game stretched between two platforms (released just last year). No matter how you look at it's Grasshoppers most successful game.