I'm all about niche products. I'm into high end PC gaming..  I understand thier value as a gamer. But this is the vgchartz forum. It's about sales and economics here. I'm just saying it isn't going to be an impactfull concept on the marketplace.  Even those who have both the Vita and the PS4 will rarely use it once the new experience factor wears off. The vita has shoddy analog sticks and lacks a second row of shoulder buttons. The experience doesn't compare to the wiiu experience where you can play games on the gamepad with 4 shoulder buttons and properly sized analog sticks. The Vita PS4 remote play experience is for teenagers and kids who don't control their own television set and would want to continue playing their game even when dad is using the tv. The problem is that the PS4 and Vita are high end products which aren't targeting the family unit. The wiiu is made by Nintendo and will become widespread amoung families and actually have an impact. This takes nothing away from the PS4 which i fully expect to become an esstential core gaming product.

While the forums might be centered around sales. This thread is not. While were on the topic Looking at the Wii U sales right now, it's not going to have much of an impact at all. It's pretty much mimicked the game cube, Shot off like a rocket, but quickly fizzled out. How do you know how owners of both consoles will choose to use them? You don't. You do realize the vita has a rear touch pad, and all those missing inputs work out wonderfully when mapped to the rear touch pad, not to mention the touch screen. So that's really a mute point. And the sticks, that's just your opinion. I don't having an issue with them, while i wish they were bigger, they are the best on a mobile gaming platform so far.

Anyone with half a brain is going to wait for Nintendo to catch up on software development before rejecting the console as a sales failure. Nintendo needs to deliver a better array of exclusives games in order to motivate consumers. They received a bump from games which only have a small pool of a appeal like the new Monster Hunter and Lego game. I don't have any doubts that like the 3ds before it games will resurrect the sales rates for the wiiu console.  They will have a strong Christmas and then grow from there. The problem with people who bet against Nintendo products is that they never learn. They are so embarrsed for getting their predictions wrong the last time that instead of admitting their own shortsighted failures they lash out in whatever small window of opportunity arises in the future to criticise Nintnedo sales numbers.

I can't believe any real gamer would take any sort of satisfaction in having trigger shoulder button controls simply mapped to a rear backpad. Sounds horrible. Sony fanyboys will talk a lot about this feature now but when they have their ps4 they are going to play with the standard controller which feels much better in the hands and is much more accurate and they will play on thier large screens where 1080p actually matters.

bah nvm ..not worth it

i thought I had already admitted that that the remote play feature on the wiiu was better suited to Nintendo since they will be selling the majority of their units to the family market. Not sure how you got that I was suggesting that the play off the gamepad thing was targeting someone like me. I have a wiiu and of course I prefer playing off a larger screen. I'm certainly not here to defend Iwata and his forecasts. They made the same mistakes with the 3ds and then made the mistakes again with the wiiu. It's time for new leadership at Nintendo.

If remote play is the most talked about feature than I think Sony is in trouble. Thanksfully it's not actually the most talked about feature. It's not even a feature at all until you've spend 450 plus on a ps4 and 250 on a vita. Pretty expensive for a family oriented feature if you ask me.

The problem is not so much that the back pad is so horrible. I've done some stuff with it on the Vita where it made sense like using it to paddle my boat in Uncharted for example. But it's just not going function well as a replacement for a button. Vita games will by and large be designed for 6 buttons. Console games are designed for more buttons and are often built around the use of 8 buttons plus the anolog stick buttons. Anytime you just map something like that over without giving it much thought you're going to run into issues. First of all its simply not comfortable to use you middle finger to rapidly tap the back of the handheld you are holding at the time. Try holding up your vita or your cellphone or whatever you have that is similar and trying rapidly tapping the back of it. The more natural way of using a controller is to use the same finger for l1 and l2 but on a handheld device this would end up being flimsey as it is essential to firmly hold the system in place at all times due to the fact that you are looking at the screen you are holding. You have to hold it perfectly steady at all times. Handheld games which are done well take all of this into consideration and typically will be simpler in nature or at the very least have a simpler control scheme where your fingers aren't constantly switching places on the controller.  Plus, you couldn't use your middle finger to support  the vita in remote play even if you wanted to. Because when you try and support the vita you'd be pressing the l2 and r2 buttons which are mapped to the back pad. The backpad is a good feature to come up every once in a while for a certain activity in a game but not for avid use. It also works well for games which are built around it. Cellphone style games. I want you to seriously trying holding up a handheld system with just two fingers from each hand on the back and your pointer fingers on the l1 and r1. Also press down as you normally would with your thumbs.  Your middle finger has to be up in the air unless it is specifically being used to do a button press. It doesn't work well. The only reasonable idea is to not just port all games over to remote play. Choose games wisely which can actually function well with 2 fewer shoulder buttons and implement a control scheme that doesn't ruin the experience.

There are too many cavetas to it and I think that supporters of this feature will in time realise that it wasn't the amazing feature they thought it was. Even wiiu owners would have to admit that it's not that great and feature even though unlike the Vita the wiiu gamepad was designed specifically for this feature.

Does nobody realize that Remote Play is usable over the internet?
http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/current/remoteplay/remoteinternet.html

You can already remotely start and use PS3 with PSP/Vita. It's looking like PS4 will fully support all games with this feature now, too.

i'm so glad nintendonians found finaly something that is not technically inferior to other systems
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well the tablet resolution is lower than the vita,pretty lousy for a huge screen

but in this case:its all about gameplay

Can you go to anywhere and plah your Wii U game? Of course you needs a good internete connection but you can do that with PS4+Vita... Wii U+gamepad not.

Epic win.

LMAo at using a video before it even launches to come to conclusion.

Except that Vita was released more than 1 year ago and Wii U was released 4 months ago...