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Forums - Gaming - "Why Console Specs Don't Matter" and Speculation on PS4 future. *Video*

For anyone who doesn't know who this guys are, they are call Extra Credits, they usually talk about game desing and that kind of stuff. The writer worked on some big AAA tittles like the first CoD games (the last game he worked on was the first Modern Warfare) and now he gives classes about game design, the artist is currently working at Retro Studios, so I do really trust what this guys have to say in terms of game design and video games in general. I do agree with all the things they say in the video so I recommend you watch it.



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tagged for later. now im playing some red alert 2 on my pc. i just installed it



Anyone care to summarize it for the lazy ones ?



Weak consoles sell more, light on PS4 is the second coming of jesus, and share button is all wrong!



I like Extra Credits but there isn't a lot in this video that hasn't been said before. The usual "the most powerful console hasn't sold the most, therefore it can't sale the most" gets trotted out all the time, even though it always ignores all other factors--does anyone really believe that the N64 lost to the PS1 because it had better specs?

As far as the thing about unique features go, from a selfish standpoint, I don't really want them. I want traditional games with traditional controls.

I also don't really understand his criticism of the PS4's Share system. Who would want to attempt editing it on the PS4? What it does is it allows you to upload those "OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT JUST HAPPENED" moments which you can then download and edit however you want before uploading the finished product. How is that not good?



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JoeTheBro said:
Weak consoles sell more, light on PS4 is the second coming of jesus, and share button is all wrong!

Wii U the king of sales then.



FrancisNobleman said:
Anyone care to summarize it for the lazy ones ?

Weakest hardware has always won.
No Cell architecture and more RAM is good for devs.
PS4 touch pad is kinda of useless outside of menus and tablet games (plus some "gimmicky" game ideas using the Move integration in the controller).
PS4 might be Sony's last consoles (because of the use of Gaikai and assuming that most internet bandwidth is good enough to allow it).
The Share bottom tries to "fixed" a problem that doesn't exist. 



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pokoko said:

I also don't really understand his criticism of the PS4's Share system. Who would want to attempt editing it on the PS4? What it does is it allows you to upload those "OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT JUST HAPPENED" moments which you can then download and edit however you want before uploading the finished product. How is that not good?

Not everyone does that kind of videos. Some very popular youtubers do edit their videos and only show the funniest parts. It's a good idea for a stream or something but when you think about it, popular youtube videos (in terms of video game obviously) do have some sort of edition in them.

And if you want to stream, there are better solutions like Twitch because everyone can watch it, if you do it only on the PS4 that means that for people to watch it they need a PS4 and need to be connected (unless you can it on your PC like normal). 



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The reason gamers emphasize the power of a console has nothing to do with the amount of sales - honestly, DOES IT MATTER that the Wii sold more than the PS3 to any gamer!?

The F A C T is that the PS3 has much better games largely thanks to being much more powerful. This is why we argue. Seriously, for such smart guys (apparently), they really don't seem to be aware of this at all.

Not to mention that there are always so many complex factors involved in "who wins" that bringing it down to power alone is obviously not the right way to do it.

I'm starting to wonder if I'm going to be exposing myself to this shit every few years for the rest of my life. I might just quit vg websites altogether because its just an endless loop of the same thing over and over.

I haven't even started arguing against their point. So many things that could be brought up, but why bother? Just means I'd have to type the same shit out again once Durango specs are revealed etc.

Surprised that they were intrigued by the move-implementation on the DS4.



osed125 said:
FrancisNobleman said:
Anyone care to summarize it for the lazy ones ?

Weakest hardware has always won.
No Cell architecture and more RAM is good for devs.
PS4 touch pad is kinda of useless outside of menus and tablet games (plus some "gimmicky" game ideas using the Move integration in the controller).
PS4 might be Sony's last consoles (because of the use of Gaikai and assuming that most internet bandwidth is good enough to allow it).
The Share bottom tries to "fixed" a problem that doesn't exist. 


I've read somewhere on gaf that while the departure from the cell architecture is a reason to party, it is still a pain in the ass to program for a 8 core cpu that is gonna be the standard for next ms and sony consoles and also some amd powered goodness for the years to come.