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JayWood2010 said:

lol No that is King to you >.<  I over threw Pezus last night didnt you hear XP

apologies your Grace, I quite value my neck.



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kowenicki said:
What happens if Sony and MS select AMD and then AMD goes bust?

Nothing. Sony and MS only have AMD create the original chip and then they hire other companies to mass produce it as they then own the rights to the chip.

This is why Nvidia is saying it wasn't worth the cost. They don't get a whole lot of long-term revenue beyond the small possibility of royalties.

AMD is probably looking at this as a possibility for major marketing and in return bump up their PC APU and GPU sales in the long run. They certianly are not going to be making millions and billions off of MSony and their consoles.



theprof00 said:
JayWood2010 said:

lol No that is King to you >.<  I over threw Pezus last night didnt you hear XP

apologies your Grace, I quite value my neck.


Must be something that i don't know. Strange times, isn't it.



Nvidia WANTED TO RIP sony off like they did with there PS3 gpu and the frist gpu in xbox 1.
sony and MS knows that Nvidia wants to rip people off



VITA 32 GIG CARD.250 GIG SLIM & 160 GIG PHAT PS3

freedomland said:
theprof00 said:
JayWood2010 said:

lol No that is King to you >.<  I over threw Pezus last night didnt you hear XP

apologies your Grace, I quite value my neck.

Must be something that i don't know. Strange times, isn't it.

It is always strange times on the chartz.



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kowenicki said:
What happens if Sony and MS select AMD and then AMD goes bust?

Whatever is sealed in the contracts. You can be sure that truckloads of Sony/MS lawyers have written that scenario into the contracts.



Lafiel said:
disolitude said:
ethomaz said:
nVidia has better tech but no option like CPU+GPU (APU)... so in the end the AMD is cheaper.

Sony did the best for the company.


Maybe not an X86 option but they have a very capable ARM SoC option in their Tegra line. 

very capable? well, the cpu cores of that are OK for smartphones/tablets (and Vita uses a custom Tegra3, with powerVR gpu cores), but not anywhere near enough for "next gen" consoles

and the Tegra's GPU cores are heavily critizised for being subpar even compared to standard ARM designs


Yeah very capable and much more efficient than X86.

Tegra 4 is about 6 times more powerful than Tegra 3 and is only a year older. ARM architecture is improving performance year over year much faster than X86.  It will all level out down the road but at this rate Tegra 5 and Sapdragon Next gen will be as powerful as low-midrange PCs. 

Overall I agree with you that Tegra or Snapdragons are not console ready YET but in 2 years, they will be just as powerful as the best x86 APUs.

I mean, Tegra 4 already supports HDR, DDR3 memory, DirectX and OpenGL and allows for 4k x 4k textures which is what PC games tend to use. In 2 years they will achieve parity. 



Nvidia is just butthurt!



Lafiel said:
disolitude said:
ethomaz said:
nVidia has better tech but no option like CPU+GPU (APU)... so in the end the AMD is cheaper.

Sony did the best for the company.


Maybe not an X86 option but they have a very capable ARM SoC option in their Tegra line. 

very capable? well, the cpu cores of that are OK for smartphones/tablets (and Vita uses a custom Tegra3, with powerVR gpu cores), but not anywhere near enough for "next gen" consoles

and the Tegra's GPU cores are heavily critizised for being subpar even compared to standard ARM designs

Focus on the important thing, not the hollow names and words you're using.

PS4 - currently (and hinted to be upgraded) 1.8 Teraflops.
PS3 - 200 Gigaflops
Samsung Galaxy S4 (not yet released) - 74 Gigaflops.

 

EDIT: Oops, my bad. I see what was going on now.
@dis. Galaxy 4s uses a tegra 4.



CGI-Quality said:
It's perplexing to think they would title the article that way, since this nViDiA rep doesn't say things in those harsh terms. This isn't against you, Jay, I saw this on a PC website with that title.


It's really only "harsh" if you read it wrong. If you read it from the perspective of a company investing money into R&D with little to no profit it isn't harsh at all. It's just business.