Mazty said:
sc94597 said:
Mazty said:
The issue there is what do you call terrorism? There are no countries directly involved, just people out to destroy a way of life/nation. Hunting & killing those people is expected on both sides.
Ultimately, no one on US soil will ever be killed if there is a good chance of safely aprehending the person. The notion that drones will start killing US citizens on US soil is ludicrous and in line with doomsday preppers as it goes against everything the country stands for; it's as likely as Obama announcing the US as a communist country.
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That's exactly the problem. The FBI for example has recently called U.S Patriots who believe in a strict constitutional interpretation and criticism of the U.S government --"domestic terrorists." Should these people be killed for their belief? Hence the need for forceful action in any interpretation of terrorism.
It isn't ridiculous at all. Two-hundred and sixty million people died in the 20th century by their own governments. It is a rational precaution and being prepared for the worst, because the worst is inevitable. If you're interested in the details, just watch portions of Rand Paul's filibuster. He explains everything there.
If it were truly a doomsday scenario only matter, then obviously it would never had gained the support it has gained among statemen and the population alike.
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As I said, if anyone can be aprehended on US soil, they will be - it's cheaper than throwing a missile at them and morally less questionable so win-win for everyone in that sense.
Comparing the US to places like Syria/Cambodia etc is utterly, utterly insane. Just because some dictator kills people in his country doesn't mean the US will suddenly follow their example...Why not say "Germany started 2 wars, let's pre-emptively nuke it before the third!"??
Politicians are out to appease the masses, not stir up a country where 50% own a gun. Also think about the logic behind it - why would the US start killing it's own people on it's own soil? It hasn't yet so why will it suddenly revert back? Will people also start to wear animal hide and live off the land? It's little more than sensationlism. If the US government won't even blow up drug runners on the border, they certainly won't start blowing up houses on the prairie.
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Not necessarily. Then they'd have to actually go through a trial, in which case if the person were innocent, would likely be found out to be. Trials cost time and money, and require evidence. Gunning down somebody because they're on a kill list, for whatever corruptible motivations, does not.
I was more comparing the U.S to the British Empire, Nazi Germany, and Soviet Russia . All of which consisted of regimes which killed millions both directly and indirectly.
Correction: politicians are out to appease their lobbyists and corporatist funders. That is why the U.S is in wars, for example. The military industrial-complex buys politicians who will manipulate events to enact war. Because these politicians are the ones with the money, they are the ones who campaign, and the vast majority of options are bought by one group or another. The whole game is competition of which corporation has the most money and influence and can take more resources and persuade more politics for their advantage. If you learned enough history, you'd know very well why a government official would want to kill other government officials, or people. Government is never good, this is the basic axiom of natural law purported by Thomas Paine. It is but the lesser of evils.