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Venezuela begins seven days of mourning after death of Hugo Chávez

• Vice president Nicolas Maduro takes up interim post
• Wave of mourning breaks out in streets of Venezuela
• Chávez to get state funeral in Caracas

Venezuelans began seven days of painful and public mourning on Tuesday night after the announcement that their president, Hugo Chávez, had died aged 58 after a long battle against cancer.

The country's vice-president, Nicolás Maduro – tipped as a likely successor – broke the news on Tuesday night, prompting a wave of grief in the nation's streets.

"We have just received the most tragic and awful information. At 4.25pm, President Hugo Chávez Frias died," Maduro announced in a televised address, his voice choking. "It's a moment of deep pain," he said.

Chávez died at a military hospital in Caracas, the capital of the country he has ruled since 1999. As soon as the news was announced, supporters gathered at the city's main square, Plaza Bolivar, and began chanting: "Chávez vive, la lucha sigue" – "Chávez lives, the battle continues."

People wearing the red beret the president was known for sang a popular folk song with the words: "Those who die for life cannot be called dead."

As messages of condolence came from many world leaders, perhaps the most significant was from Barack Obama. He said: "At this challenging time of President Hugo Chávez's passing, the United States reaffirms its support for the Venezuelan people and its interest in developing a constructive relationship with the Venezuelan government. As Venezuela begins a new chapter in its history, the US remains committed to policies that promote democratic principles, the rule of law and respect for human rights."

Chávez, the symbol of Latin American socialism, succumbed to a respiratory infection on Tuesday evening, 21 months after he first revealed he had a tumour. He had not been seen in public for three months since emergency surgery in Cuba on 11 December.

He will be given a state funeral in Caracas on Friday, likely to be attended by millions of supporters and leftwing leaders from across the globe who have been inspired by Chávez's doctrine of "Bolivarian 21st-century socialism", grateful for the subsidised energy he provided or simply impressed by his charisma. His death will also trigger a presidential election, to be held within 30 days, to decide who controls the world's greatest untapped reserves of oil.

His designated successor, Maduro, is likely to face Henrique Capriles, the losing opposition candidate in the presidential election held a few months ago in October 2012. Until then, according to the constitution, the interim president should be the head of the national assembly, Diosdado Cabello. However on Tuesday night the Venezuelan foreign minister, Elias Jaua, said Maduro was the interim president. It was not clear whether this would only apply until the official calling of the election and beginning of the campaign, or whether Maduro would remain in charge until the election result was determined.

Robert Menendez, chairman of the US Senate foreign relations committee, called for free and fair elections to replace Chávez. "Hugo Chavez ruled Venezuela with an iron hand and his passing has left a political void that we hope will be filled peacefully and through a constitutional and democratic process, grounded in the Venezuelan constitution and adhering to the Inter-American Democratic Charter."

Replacing one of most colourful figures on the global political landscape will be an immense challenge. Born to a poor family on the plains, Chávez became a tank commander and a devotee of South America's liberator, Simón Bolívar. A failed coup in 1992 propelled him into the limelight but it was his ballot box triumphs that made him an inspiration for the resurgent Latin American left and the most outspoken – and often humorous – critic of the US, the war in Iraq and George Bush, whom he described as a "donkey" and a "devil". Formerly one of the most dynamic political leaders in the world with a globe-trotting schedule and a weekly, unscripted TV broadcast – often hours long – Chávez shocked his countrymen in June 2011 when he revealed that Cuban surgeons had removed a baseball-sized tumour from his pelvic region.

After that, he underwent several rounds of chemotherapy and two more operations in what he described as a "battle for health and for life". His medical records were never made public, prompting widespread speculation about his imminent demise, but he and his supporters insisted he was recovering. Before the presidential election in October 2012, aides claimed he was well enough to complete a full term. During that campaign, Chávez was clearly affected by his illness. But although he made fewer and shorter appearances, he won more votes than in any of his earlier elections battles, prompting him to proclaim victory in a "perfect battle".

Fears about his health escalated after he rushed to Cuba for hyperbaric oxygen treatment on 27 November. Less than a fortnight later, he made a televised address in which he said that doctors had discovered malignant cells that required surgery and urged Venezuelans to vote for Maduro if he was incapacitated.

Since his operation in December, Chávez has been visited by family members and several of his closest political allies, including Fidel and Raul Castro of Cuba, Ecuadorean president Rafael Correa and Bolivian president Evo Morales.

Beyond a set of four photographs released last month that showed a remarkably hearty looking Chávez smiling in a hospital bed and flanked by his daughters, the president has not been seen or heard for three months. This prompted frequent rumours that the president was dead or on life support. The government denied this and said he continued to run the country by writing down his orders.

But officials acknowledged that Chávez suffered multiple complications after his surgery including respiratory infections and bleeding. He had to undergo more chemotherapy and drug treatments and could only breathe through a tracheal tube. He returned from Cuba on 18 February at his own request, said officials. Since then he has been treated at Carlos Arvelo military hospital in Caracas.

Hopes for a recovery dimmed on Monday, when minister of communications, Ernesto Villegas, said the president's condition had declined due to a "new and serious respiratory infection."

Constitutional questions have been raised by his long hospitalisation and absence from public life, which he formerly dominated with dynamic and provocative appearances on his weekly television address, Hello Mr President.

When he failed to attend his scheduled inauguration on 10 January, the opposition asked who is running the country. The ruling party responded with a rally of more than 100,000 supporters, many carrying banners declaring "We are Chávez."

From~ http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/05/hugo-chavez-dies-cuba

To me this a major shock, it's just so unexpected. We all knew he was ill, but it looked like the great leader was getting better. Who knows what this could mean for Venezuela or even South America. Hopefully, at least Venezuela won't go back to it's old ways, i doubt it will though, as the socialists are massive there and things have come so far since Chavez took office in 1999. 

 



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Man, he has died like six times in the past 24 hours.

"Great leader", lololol.



badgenome said:

Man, he has died like six times in the past 24 hours.

"Great leader", lololol.

Probably better than most of USA recent presidents.



sethnintendo said:

Probably better than most of USA most recent presidents.

LOL, no. And that's saying something.



sethnintendo said:
badgenome said:

Man, he has died like six times in the past 24 hours.

"Great leader", lololol.

Probably better than most of USA recent presidents.

No....just....no.



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osed125 said:
sethnintendo said:
badgenome said:

Man, he has died like six times in the past 24 hours.

"Great leader", lololol.

Probably better than most of USA recent presidents.

No....just....no.

I don't think any President since FDR has done anything (LBJ did some things right and fucked up others).  USA has shitty politicians and parties.  Actually, I'll give credit to Eisenhower for helping create the interstate highway system.  Creating the now crumbling highway system (with most new roads being toll roads aka Texas) and allowing blacks to vote would be the biggest achievements for USA in the past 60+ years.



badgenome said:
sethnintendo said:

Probably better than most of USA most recent presidents.

LOL, no. And that's saying something.

Though I wonder if at this point he was the best president they could have.

I mean he fucked up Venezula's economy possibly beyond repair with his attempts at socialsit redistribution...

They might just be best off with the current "borrow money, and steal to keep the poor happy" plan... as he fucked up so badly it will probably take international intervention to get out of it.


They have noone to bail them out.



Already posted, several times...

locking.



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sethnintendo said:
osed125 said:
sethnintendo said:
badgenome said:

Man, he has died like six times in the past 24 hours.

"Great leader", lololol.

Probably better than most of USA recent presidents.

No....just....no.

I don't think any President since FDR has done anything (LBJ did some things right and fucked up others).  USA has shitty politicians and parties.  Actually, I'll give credit to Eisenhower for helping create the interstate highway system.  Creating the now crumbling highway system (with most new roads being toll roads aka Texas) and allowing blacks to vote would be the biggest achievements for USA in the past 60+ years.

Meanwhile huge chavez destroyed the middle class.... completely, destoryed the economy, completely, and made their country a haven for drug lords, leading to them having more murders then the USA, (who has a shit ton of murders per capita.)

That's more murders period, despite having a much much smaller population.

 

That's not even getting to the civil rights abuses.



badgenome said:
sethnintendo said:

Probably better than most of USA most recent presidents.

LOL, no. And that's saying something.

Can you name any American president who actually done their best to improve the quality of life for their people, especially the poorest in society?

Or a US president who sensibly spent state money on services like education or healthcare, instead of blowing it on yet another war or tax cut for the rich? Chavez wasn't perfect, but he has so many achievements to his name.

Unemployment halved from 12% to 6% under his rule.

Poverty halved, in 1999 it was at 55%.

Doubling of state spending on education, so that everyone has fair access to education. 99.6% of the people are now literate, compared to 92% in Brazil and 90% in Colombia

Child mortality has nearly halved since 1990, from 26% to 13.5%

life expectancy has increased from 70 to 75 years

Venezuela's economy has constantly grown under Chavez, it has grown by 500% since 1998. Currently growing at 6%/ quarter, while the USA's is flat!

Since, Bretton Woods cut venezuela's debt in 1998, it has remained low. Only 15% of GDP, compared to the USA's debt which is now higher than it's GDP!

GDP per capita has almost doubled from $7000 to $13000

I know Venezuela is still developing, but all this happened under one leader in just 13 years and unlike India, China, Japan etc. it's developing in it's own way, it's not relied on the west for any of this. Anyway, i doubt such improvements would have been seen if Venezuela kept it's capitalist system.

No US president can say they achieved all this, while in office. They won't even nationalise healthcare, so that the uninsured 36 million Americans are covered!

Sure Venezuela has problems with crime, inflation and human rights, but such things will be sorted out eventually. 



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