Linkzmax said:
Bong Lover said:
Linkzmax said:
Bong Lover said: Well, recent events leaves me no other option than to unvote nen-suer |
Why now? Did you simply forget that you had your vote on nen after his claim?
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I didn't forget, I simply took my time as I did when I voted for him as well. It took me some time to figure out the significance of role claiming also, and when I did you took that as another scum tell on me.
To your point of suspicion about me, why is it so inconcievable that I would come up with that theory on my own? In any case, if that is too advanced for me to understand on my own, does that mean you think I've been coached by scum to present that theory? How would that be a benefit for scum exactly?
To address your concern: Over the course of day one I have realized that being new at this game is a great disadvantage and that the experienced players know this and cut noobs like myself some slack. At least for the first few days it seems like you can get away with claiming ignorance, thus it would be a benefit for scum to advise their new players (I am assuming there is at least one new scum player for the sake of balance btw) to appear like they don't know everything that goes on. Note that I never said I think that Sethnintendo is being coached by scum, I just commented that he several times went out of his way to point out how little he understands of what's going on and that it could be possible that scum has told him to play up to his status as new that way.
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1. You mentioned the "very real chance [you] were wrong [about nen being scum]" and "serious doubt [about your strong scum read of nen]". Regardless of my take on your role claiming question, if you are so hesitant to vote because of the risk of being wrong, what harm is there in quickly unvoting for someone you are highly considering isn't actually scum. Again, what "recent events" forced you to unvote now?
2.Yes, I think it is quite unlikely that at that point in time you'd have come up with such a theory. I don't think you were coached by scum to present said theory, but I think there was coaching that mentioned to/not to play up the newb card. I think you took the idea of playing the newb card and then pushed it against Seth.
3.You are going to have to show me where you think vets give newbs slack, because at the point you presented your theory I don't find any evidence of it. Your note is contradicting itself, plus you did: "now that I've slept on it and thought about it a little more it's entirely possible that he's been coached by scum to say what he says? I don't remeber how long after the original question that he replied but I have a feeling there would be plenty of time for scum to interfere and give him an acceptable reply."
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1. At the time I made these two posts I already knew I would have to unvote nen. And I did. Just a little later. The recent events I refered to was nen's roleclaim.
2. I am not an idiot, I am perfectly capable of the level of reasoning to come up with the possibility of something like that being coached by scum. To be quite honest I would hope that most people in the game is capable of the same level of thinking. After all, it's not really that difficult to put that theory together and I am a little surprised that you continue to push that point. I mean, I understand the concept of applying presure and looking for cracks, but I am having a hard time believing that a simple deduction like that is so unheard of in mafia games that it warrents this kind of scrutiny. It's starting to feel like you're keeping something going just to muddle the waters.
3. I don't think I ever have said anything about that in this thread until just that post, it is however a strong feeling I have and had back then as well. It's been pretty much confirmed since also.