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forest-spirit on 25 February 2013

Considering the huge difference between these two incidents I think the amount of coverage is just about right.
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fordy on 25 February 2013
KylieDog said:
fordy said:


You really know nothing about the security process, do you?

Security holes are generally only fixed by discovery, whether it's by people who specialise in attempted compromise of security or by hackers. If the breach is found to be caused by a protocol or service, then the relative fix is applied and the new version is published.

Valve's system breach incited a revision of protocol functionality on the thought that it might have been the cause. It was outside of Valve's juristriction altogether.

However, Sony's PSN system was at least two MAJOR revisions out of date (MINOR revisions generally contain at least several patches/fixes. MAJOR revisions are exponentially greater). Therefore, Sony left it's doors open for HUNDREDS of different types of KNOWN and DOCUMENTED security breaches that were already fixed in later versions.


Evidence etc...

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/300332/sony-was-using-outdated-security-and-no-firewall-for-psn-says-security-expert/

http://www.pcworld.com/article/227770/experts_on_psn_hack_sony_could_ve_done_more.html

http://www.redspin.com/blog/2011/05/05/sony-psn-breach-%E2%80%93-how-bad-was-their-security-a-look-into-error-messages/

 

Sony was fined for poor security, as well...

http://www.newsfactor.com/story.xhtml?story_id=86566&full_skip=1

 

EDIT: To add, the article states Sony used Apache Tomcat 5.5.23 . When the system was breached, the latest edition of Tomcat was 7.0.26



ironmanDX on 25 February 2013
scottie said:
If I had to hazard a guess as to some reasons.

1) The attack on Sony effected only their gaming division, the attack on MS did not effect their gaming division. This is a gaming website.

2) During the Sony attack, it was confirmed (iirc) that encrypted user data, including credit card details was stolen. For the MS attack, it was confirmed that no data was taken.

3) We currently have interesting stuff going on with the reveal of the PS4, so we have other things to talk about.

Or was your question rhetorical, were you merely trying to insinuate that VGChartz has a pro MS bias? Because I can assure you, nothing could be further from the truth. Every time one of those polls comes up, Sony fans outnumber MS and Ninty combined on this forum.

Get back to making "Nintendo is doomed" threads .


They won't get it because they refuse too. Good response by you though.



Kasz216 on 25 February 2013
KylieDog said:
Kasz216 said:
KylieDog said:
Same as when Valve got hacked, people who it affects don't really give a shit unless it means they are stopped from playing online.

...but at least Sony was good enough to actually take the backlash and shut it down until fixed, Valve and others just kept going.


You might not be familiar with PC gaming, but Valve has a thing called Steam Guard.  


Is this just an idea rather than something actually used, because I've logged my steam account onto different systems and never had any issues.

No. It's a real thing.  If you enable it, the only way to log into multiple PC's is to get a steam guard code through your email.  When it got introduced everyone got asked if they wanted to put it on, and i'm pretty sure new steam accounts either default yes or ask.

Click on Settings, then Manage Steam Guard security.

You can even deauthorize any computer that isn't your own at will in case you activate steam at a friends computer or a work computer or something.



Michael-5 on 25 February 2013

Why is no one covering this?

Because this isn't as extreme as PSN getting hacked. PSN being hacked knocked PSN offline for a month, the Atlus Cloud hack....is that even related to XBL? IS this the same Cloud as Cloud Storage? If it is, does that affect anything more then just our saved game data? The PSN hack affected PSN users personal information, including credit card info.

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Either way, the moral of the story is don't trust companies with your credit card information. Buy pre-paid cards.



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Alby_da_Wolf on 25 February 2013

@OP: MS sufffers so many security breaches in its products that one in its network passes almost unnoticed.



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megaman79 on 25 February 2013

Because Apple and Facebook have more prestige?



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Lostplanet22 on 25 February 2013

The PSN hack was big news thx to Sony owners themself. The Call of duty forums were full with PS3 owners who were sad and furious that they could not play their game and had no idea when PSN would be up again..



 

Imaginedvl on 25 February 2013
kupomogli said:
Imaginedvl said:
The difference is that nobody outside of Microsoft got access to my personal information including my credit card.

What difference?  There is no difference.  No one gained access to any personal information during the PSN hack either.  Nothing more than fabrication by websites that wanted to generate hits.

Are you serious?
Credit Card information is what for you, public domain?

And add to that a month with PSN being down... Then come back telling me that there no difference with Microsoft Azure being down for 4 hours lol