MS is a lot safer thanks to... LINUX!!!

https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=microsoft+akamai+linux

That is just in the UK though. And hardly a logical way of measuring whether they were really lax in their security.

(Looking at the various fines ICO has actually handed over, most of them have been because of things like neglect and they haven't targeted computer hacks from what I can see. This is the first occurance. So when you say companies don't get fined all the time....they never have got fined when they are hacked. Only Sony has been and really, Sony did say they were going to fight this.)

In the US they weren't fined. And really, everywhere else in the world, I think.

As far as the last paragraph is concerned, the analogy doesn't apply in my case. Because the Sony hack was something that didn't affect anyone except themeselves. They monitored the credit card frauds after this incident and nothing happend.

Besides a better analogy would be to fine the person who was safeguarding your videogames, when you have actually caught the robbers.

Well if we had 8gb of GDDR5 this would have never happened.

If I had to hazard a guess as to some reasons.

1) The attack on Sony effected only their gaming division, the attack on MS did not effect their gaming division. This is a gaming website.

2) During the Sony attack, it was confirmed (iirc) that encrypted user data, including credit card details was stolen. For the MS attack, it was confirmed that no data was taken.

3) We currently have interesting stuff going on with the reveal of the PS4, so we have other things to talk about.

Or was your question rhetorical, were you merely trying to insinuate that VGChartz has a pro MS bias? Because I can assure you, nothing could be further from the truth. Every time one of those polls comes up, Sony fans outnumber MS and Ninty combined on this forum.

Get back to making "Nintendo is doomed" threads.

You realise that the outage was caused by an expired security certificate, right? In other words, users could not access Azure because it was TOO secure, and would not accept secure sockets (which is what the network uses).

The hacking incident is a completely separate to this.

On the other hand...Sony's PSN network never received software updates since it's original conception, thus contained a lot of security holes by the time it was discovered. Thus, the hacking WAS part of the outage (they needed to get a 3rd party to rebuild PSN from scratch, because they apparently didn't know how to make a secure system), unlike Microsoft's...

Valve didn't have systems that had protocols that were 5 years out of date with updates...

Phishing and hacking are two completely different things.

So you're saying that older, out of date systems are...better?

What difference?  There is no difference.  No one gained access to any personal information during the PSN hack either.  Nothing more than fabrication by websites that wanted to generate hits.

You really know nothing about the security process, do you?

Security holes are generally only fixed by discovery, whether it's by people who specialise in attempted compromise of security or by hackers. If the breach is found to be caused by a protocol or service, then the relative fix is applied and the new version is published.

Valve's system breach incited a revision of protocol functionality on the thought that it might have been the cause. It was outside of Valve's juristriction altogether.

However, Sony's PSN system was at least two MAJOR revisions out of date (MINOR revisions generally contain at least several patches/fixes. MAJOR revisions are exponentially greater). Therefore, Sony left it's doors open for HUNDREDS of different types of KNOWN and DOCUMENTED security breaches that were already fixed in later versions.