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DanneSandin on 22 February 2013
Dr.Grass said:
wow you so smart and insightful.

But I'm right. e3. megatons. will prove that I know things you don't.



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Cobretti2 on 22 February 2013
DanneSandin said:
Cobretti2 said:

 

DanneSandin said:
RolStoppable said:
DanneSandin said:

Nintendo gave 3rd party developers gimped dev kits?!

 

Has anyone really read what I'm saying???

Why should you be taken serious when you said that Nintendo cancelled third party games?

Well come e3 and you see what kind of MEGATONS I talked about I should be believed.


This post makes no sense. From what I understand, you expect us to believe Nintendo will tell us at E3 that they had CANCELLED the following games X Y Z which are MEGATONS that were coming to Wii U from 3rd parties, rather than thiese are the MEGATONS we HAVE coming out soon?

I might have worded that a bit wrong :P I stated in the OP that SOny will bring us megatons (I know what) and that should prove that my OP is right since it would infact give me inside information. The megatons isn't only games, but services as well...


But what proof have you got this megaton was a Wii U exclusive originally?  Any game not comign to Wii U could potentially fit this profile



 

 

monkeyade on 22 February 2013
DanneSandin said:
monkeyade said:
DanneSandin said:

So, I have things to reveal, things I cannot prove but that comes from within the industry. That's why I knew KillZone 4 would be revealed during the PS4 event (even though I didn't say anything) and that's why I'm fairly certain PS4 will cost $349 at launch. I also know what games will be shown at e3 (MEGATON incoming!!! Fan boys of all sorts will cry tears of joy and tears of anger), so just take my word for what I'm writing now - and come e3 you will see what I mean by megaton, which should prove what I'm about to tell you about Nintendo and 3rd parties.

Wanna know the real reason why Nintendo is getting shitty 3rd party support? It's no conspiracy like some think. Nintendo has ever since the GameCube days (and perhaps even before that) given 3rd parties GIMPED dev kits. We all know Wii U has 2gb RAM, and 1gb of those are reserved for the OS - leaving 1gb for games. But only Nintendo has access to that FULL 1gb RAM; 3rd parties got gimped dev kits with about 730mb RAM to work with, with the explanation that the rest of the RAM were off limits.

What happened was early on a very large publisher got their hands on source code to a 1st party title accidentally (was meant to be sent a code segment on disk for assistance with a gpu addressing issue, but ended up with whole game source), and in the source for that, it became obvious that 3rd party dev kits lacked vital and very helpful api's for graphics rendering.

This thing also happened with the Wii. 3rd party developers wanted more access to the hardware to make games, but weren't allowed by Nintendo, and that's why Wii never saw much support except for shovelware.

And what's even more troubling is that I just heard that Nintendo has canceled 2 3rd party games to the Wii U; 1 being exclusive and 1 being a multiplat. And these games are well known, popular titles by a major publisher. The exclusive games will now probably be heading to the PS360.

But seriously, you all need to know this - especially the Nintendo fans. 3rd parties are skipping Nintendo's consoles because they are being treated as shit. Nintendo only has themselves to blame for this fuck up.

Quit your bullshit or show us some proof

come e3 and Sony presentation you will get the megatons I've mentioned in the OP; megatons that will be bigger than bayo2 being Wii U exclusive and you'll have your proof


Cough, cough bullshit!



DanneSandin on 22 February 2013
Nirvana_Nut85 said:
DanneSandin said:
Cobretti2 said:
DanneSandin said:
Incubi said:

DanneSandin said:

even more troubling is that I just heard that Nintendo has canceled 2 3rd party games to the Wii U; 1 being exclusive and 1 being a multiplat. And these games are well known, popular titles by a major publisher. The exclusive games will now probably be heading to the PS360.

Really? Nintendo cancelling upcoming 3rd party games for WiiU? That does'nt even make sense.

I know, they're stupid as hell and really shooting themselves in the foot. And it's no small games either.


well how about you name this big exclusive.

can't do that...


Not to sound like a prick but without actually knowing which game it is, you could always claim some multiplat game that is released for PS3/360 in the near future as the apparent "exclusive" that was cancelled.  Also, it's very hard to believe that Sony would take a huge hit and release the console for $349.00 when that would not be financially feasable due to the cost of the hardware in the PS4. Again I don't mean to be rude but I think that whoever is feeding you information is pulling your chain! (and not in a pleasant way,lol)

nono I understand the scepticism, I really do. But IF the PS4 is released for $349, will I appear more believable then?



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Dr.Grass on 22 February 2013
DanneSandin said:
Dr.Grass said:
wow you so smart and insightful.

But I'm right. e3. megatons. will prove that I know things you don't.


I disagree. I don't think there will be any megatons at e3.



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DanneSandin on 22 February 2013
Cobretti2 said:
DanneSandin said:
Cobretti2 said:

 

DanneSandin said:
RolStoppable said:
DanneSandin said:

Nintendo gave 3rd party developers gimped dev kits?!

 

Has anyone really read what I'm saying???

Why should you be taken serious when you said that Nintendo cancelled third party games?

Well come e3 and you see what kind of MEGATONS I talked about I should be believed.


This post makes no sense. From what I understand, you expect us to believe Nintendo will tell us at E3 that they had CANCELLED the following games X Y Z which are MEGATONS that were coming to Wii U from 3rd parties, rather than thiese are the MEGATONS we HAVE coming out soon?

I might have worded that a bit wrong :P I stated in the OP that SOny will bring us megatons (I know what) and that should prove that my OP is right since it would infact give me inside information. The megatons isn't only games, but services as well...


But what proof have you got this megaton was a Wii U exclusive originally?  Any game not comign to Wii U could potentially fit this profile

ONE of the megatons is an old exclusive, but not from Nintendo. You will know what game I'm talking about when you see it.



I'm on Twitter @DanneSandin!

Furthermore, I think VGChartz should add a "Like"-button.

Turkish on 22 February 2013
DanneSandin said:
Turkish said:
Cobretti2 said:
DanneSandin said:
Conegamer said:
Turkish said:
Just look at the reactions of 3rd parties, they're all very happy with PS4s 8GB GDDR5 ram, ram was one of the biggest bottlenecks current gen. Nintendo just let them down.

Gamecube was a beast console, in return it got many multiplats.

As I recall at E3 2011 (or even 2012?), Nintendo said that they designed the console with 3rd parties in mind, and as such there was nothing but praise for the system. Who knows what happened to cause such a change.

Nintendo gave 3rd party developers gimped dev kits?!

 

Has anyone really read what I'm saying???


so did Sony with the PS4, until the reveal they were all under the impression it had 4GB of ram.


From their reactions after the reveal, we can say they're positevely surprised.

I guarantee you that Sony fans will be the happiest bunch on the internet after this years e3. Megatons. Seriously, like you cannot imagine.


Hmm, Western megatons or Japanese?



DanneSandin on 22 February 2013
monkeyade said:
DanneSandin said:
monkeyade said:
DanneSandin said:

So, I have things to reveal, things I cannot prove but that comes from within the industry. That's why I knew KillZone 4 would be revealed during the PS4 event (even though I didn't say anything) and that's why I'm fairly certain PS4 will cost $349 at launch. I also know what games will be shown at e3 (MEGATON incoming!!! Fan boys of all sorts will cry tears of joy and tears of anger), so just take my word for what I'm writing now - and come e3 you will see what I mean by megaton, which should prove what I'm about to tell you about Nintendo and 3rd parties.

Wanna know the real reason why Nintendo is getting shitty 3rd party support? It's no conspiracy like some think. Nintendo has ever since the GameCube days (and perhaps even before that) given 3rd parties GIMPED dev kits. We all know Wii U has 2gb RAM, and 1gb of those are reserved for the OS - leaving 1gb for games. But only Nintendo has access to that FULL 1gb RAM; 3rd parties got gimped dev kits with about 730mb RAM to work with, with the explanation that the rest of the RAM were off limits.

What happened was early on a very large publisher got their hands on source code to a 1st party title accidentally (was meant to be sent a code segment on disk for assistance with a gpu addressing issue, but ended up with whole game source), and in the source for that, it became obvious that 3rd party dev kits lacked vital and very helpful api's for graphics rendering.

This thing also happened with the Wii. 3rd party developers wanted more access to the hardware to make games, but weren't allowed by Nintendo, and that's why Wii never saw much support except for shovelware.

And what's even more troubling is that I just heard that Nintendo has canceled 2 3rd party games to the Wii U; 1 being exclusive and 1 being a multiplat. And these games are well known, popular titles by a major publisher. The exclusive games will now probably be heading to the PS360.

But seriously, you all need to know this - especially the Nintendo fans. 3rd parties are skipping Nintendo's consoles because they are being treated as shit. Nintendo only has themselves to blame for this fuck up.

Quit your bullshit or show us some proof

come e3 and Sony presentation you will get the megatons I've mentioned in the OP; megatons that will be bigger than bayo2 being Wii U exclusive and you'll have your proof


Cough, cough bullshit!

Wanna bet?



I'm on Twitter @DanneSandin!

Furthermore, I think VGChartz should add a "Like"-button.

Ljink96 on 22 February 2013

How so? Just because it's not the most dang powerful thing on the planet?! Third parties need to quit being so meat-brained and try to think outside the power. Nintendo's Wii U is powerful enough... sheesh. Nintendo's consoles have been evenly balanced over the years. The top 15 best selling games are on Nintendo consoles and 8 of them are Wii games. The underpowered, 3rd party lacking, console. The NES was nowhere near as powerful as the Sega Mark III/Master System but 3rd parties flocked to Nintendo becasue everybody knew them and they made some killer games just as they do today. It's not Nintendo's fault. 3rd parties just lack the creativity that Nintendo has firmly grasped sinced the 1800's starting with the Hanafunda cards. They innovate, they don't jump on the bandwagon, they don't really think what everybody else thinks. Nintendo has been good at convincing people without even saying a darn word. Like I said if I wanted a powerful gaming machine i'd get a PC, seriously.



Player2 on 22 February 2013
RolStoppable said:
DanneSandin said:

Well come e3 and you see what kind of MEGATONS I talked about I should be believed.

Yes, that's another one of your points that doesn't make sense. There's not really anything that could be taken away from Nintendo that would qualify as a megaton.

I know it's Friday, but you could have at least waited until it's evening before you got wasted.

If he waits until the evening the beer would freeze, remember that he is from Sweden.