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chapset on 16 February 2013
LemonSlice said:
chapset said:
LemonSlice said:
chapset said:
this is why wii never got a AAA title, I guess Nintendo might throw more money in games this gen and finally get a AAA game


So I'm confused. Super Mario Galaxy isn't AAA? Xenoblade Chronicles isn't AAA? A COD port isn't AAA? And isn't the AAA bar for the Wii as far as budget is concerned set a little lower, considering development costs are lower?

nope they were to cheap to make, super mario galaxy probably cost less than a game like haze and xenoblabe would have been a xboxlive or psn game if it was release on the HD twins

How much do Nintendo first party titles cost anyway?

5-7 mill for the big budgets but for the wii series I don't think they cost more than 2-3 mill to make. the average cost xbox360 and ps3 game is more than 10 mill



Bet reminder: I bet with Tboned51 that Splatoon won't reach the 1 million shipped mark by the end of 2015. I win if he loses and I lose if I lost.

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chapset on 16 February 2013
irstupid said:
chapset said:
LemonSlice said:
chapset said:
this is why wii never got a AAA title, I guess Nintendo might throw more money in games this gen and finally get a AAA game


So I'm confused. Super Mario Galaxy isn't AAA? Xenoblade Chronicles isn't AAA? A COD port isn't AAA? And isn't the AAA bar for the Wii as far as budget is concerned set a little lower, considering development costs are lower?

nope they were to cheap to make, super mario galaxy probably cost less than a game like haze and xenoblabe would have been a xboxlive or psn game if it was release on the HD twins

Have you ever played Xenoblade? Cause if you think its a PSN or Xlive quality game then you are delusional.

if you say so



Bet reminder: I bet with Tboned51 that Splatoon won't reach the 1 million shipped mark by the end of 2015. I win if he loses and I lose if I lost.

Jaywood2010 on 16 February 2013
Max King of the Wild said:

only thing that makes a game AAA is metacritic. This has been well established since 2007. Now you come in here and try to redefine AAA. It aint happening. We all know once a game falls below 90 mark on metacritic it's no longer triple A. Also, we all know the importance of XBLA and PSN games to gamers. Every gamer goes on metacritic and compares AAA games and looks at each store before choosing a system.


LMAO whatever helps you sleep at night bro




       

Chrizum on 16 February 2013
chapset said:
irstupid said:
chapset said:
LemonSlice said:
chapset said:
this is why wii never got a AAA title, I guess Nintendo might throw more money in games this gen and finally get a AAA game


So I'm confused. Super Mario Galaxy isn't AAA? Xenoblade Chronicles isn't AAA? A COD port isn't AAA? And isn't the AAA bar for the Wii as far as budget is concerned set a little lower, considering development costs are lower?

nope they were to cheap to make, super mario galaxy probably cost less than a game like haze and xenoblabe would have been a xboxlive or psn game if it was release on the HD twins

Have you ever played Xenoblade? Cause if you think its a PSN or Xlive quality game then you are delusional.

if you say so

No game ever released on XBLA or PSN has the complexity, scope and amount of content Xenoblade has.



LemonSlice on 16 February 2013
chapset said:
LemonSlice said:
chapset said:
LemonSlice said:
chapset said:
this is why wii never got a AAA title, I guess Nintendo might throw more money in games this gen and finally get a AAA game


So I'm confused. Super Mario Galaxy isn't AAA? Xenoblade Chronicles isn't AAA? A COD port isn't AAA? And isn't the AAA bar for the Wii as far as budget is concerned set a little lower, considering development costs are lower?

nope they were to cheap to make, super mario galaxy probably cost less than a game like haze and xenoblabe would have been a xboxlive or psn game if it was release on the HD twins

How much do Nintendo first party titles cost anyway?

5-7 mill for the big budgets but for the wii series I don't think they cost more than 2-3 mill to make. the average cost xbox360 and ps3 game is more than 10 mill

Wow. I believe what you're saying, but do you have some source for that? I always assumed their games could be made on small budgets. They show skill and talent, not big bucks. They don't even have voice acting. It's still amazing how they would spend so low knowing a game was going to sell millions.

Smart game design and above all talent. I admire Nintendo.



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LemonSlice on 16 February 2013
chapset said:
irstupid said:
chapset said:
LemonSlice said:
chapset said:
this is why wii never got a AAA title, I guess Nintendo might throw more money in games this gen and finally get a AAA game


So I'm confused. Super Mario Galaxy isn't AAA? Xenoblade Chronicles isn't AAA? A COD port isn't AAA? And isn't the AAA bar for the Wii as far as budget is concerned set a little lower, considering development costs are lower?

nope they were to cheap to make, super mario galaxy probably cost less than a game like haze and xenoblabe would have been a xboxlive or psn game if it was release on the HD twins

Have you ever played Xenoblade? Cause if you think its a PSN or Xlive quality game then you are delusional.

if you say so

Xenoblade Chronicles is as AAA as the Wii gets. Keep in mind it's basically running on 6th gen hardware.



adriane23 on 16 February 2013
JayWood2010 said:

To help with the confusion of a AAA title.  It has nothing to do with rating but with budget.  You can have a AAA game that gets a 20 metacritic or an indie game get a 90.  Ratings has nothing to do with it.

Definition - These games will have a marketing budget in the multiple-millions of dollars, and are planned to earn out in excess of one million titles sold. Investors/publishers expect a multiple-of-cost return on their investment. In order to recoup general development costs, publishers will generally produce the title for the major platforms (currently Xbox 360, PS3, and PC) to maximize profits, unless it is a console exclusive, in which case the console maker will pay for exclusivity to offset the loss of potential profit to the developer.


I thought people knew this already?

Side Note: If I scroll through the thread real fast, your avatar looks like a Boxxy meme.

http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq317/The_Master_album/Boxxy_Trollin.png" width="750" height="600">



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Jaywood2010 on 16 February 2013
adriane23 said:
JayWood2010 said:

To help with the confusion of a AAA title.  It has nothing to do with rating but with budget.  You can have a AAA game that gets a 20 metacritic or an indie game get a 90.  Ratings has nothing to do with it.

Definition - These games will have a marketing budget in the multiple-millions of dollars, and are planned to earn out in excess of one million titles sold. Investors/publishers expect a multiple-of-cost return on their investment. In order to recoup general development costs, publishers will generally produce the title for the major platforms (currently Xbox 360, PS3, and PC) to maximize profits, unless it is a console exclusive, in which case the console maker will pay for exclusivity to offset the loss of potential profit to the developer.


I thought people knew this already?

Side Note: If I scroll through the thread real fast, your avatar looks like a Boxxy meme.

 

Sadly if you read the thread some people still want to refuse lol

And lmao oh god i just got compared to Boxxy O.O




       

chapset on 16 February 2013
LemonSlice said:
chapset said:
LemonSlice said:
chapset said:
LemonSlice said:
chapset said:
this is why wii never got a AAA title, I guess Nintendo might throw more money in games this gen and finally get a AAA game


So I'm confused. Super Mario Galaxy isn't AAA? Xenoblade Chronicles isn't AAA? A COD port isn't AAA? And isn't the AAA bar for the Wii as far as budget is concerned set a little lower, considering development costs are lower?

nope they were to cheap to make, super mario galaxy probably cost less than a game like haze and xenoblabe would have been a xboxlive or psn game if it was release on the HD twins

How much do Nintendo first party titles cost anyway?

5-7 mill for the big budgets but for the wii series I don't think they cost more than 2-3 mill to make. the average cost xbox360 and ps3 game is more than 10 mill

Wow. I believe what you're saying, but do you have some source for that? I always assumed their games could be made on small budgets. They show skill and talent, not big bucks. They don't even have voice acting. It's still amazing how they would spend so low knowing a game was going to sell millions.

Smart game design and above all talent. I admire Nintendo.

this is guestimate from different sources and data accumulation, they don't really reveal their numbers for each games, this is why Nintendo was making so much money during 2006-2010 period, profit from the hardware + cheap games selling like crazy.

The article continues:  “ The average Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 game costs between $15 million and $30 million to make, Ibis estimates, and a $15 million game must sell at least 500,000 copies to break even, double that for a $30 million title — and that doesn’t include a company’s overhead costs.“  The article also mentions how the average Xbox and PS2 title only cost between $5-10 million to make, and Nintendo Wii titles cost $5 – 7 million to make.

http://www.notenoughshaders.com/2012/07/02/the-rise-of-costs-the-fall-of-gaming/



Bet reminder: I bet with Tboned51 that Splatoon won't reach the 1 million shipped mark by the end of 2015. I win if he loses and I lose if I lost.

adriane23 on 16 February 2013
LemonSlice said:
chapset said:
irstupid said:
chapset said:
LemonSlice said:
chapset said:
this is why wii never got a AAA title, I guess Nintendo might throw more money in games this gen and finally get a AAA game


So I'm confused. Super Mario Galaxy isn't AAA? Xenoblade Chronicles isn't AAA? A COD port isn't AAA? And isn't the AAA bar for the Wii as far as budget is concerned set a little lower, considering development costs are lower?

nope they were to cheap to make, super mario galaxy probably cost less than a game like haze and xenoblabe would have been a xboxlive or psn game if it was release on the HD twins

Have you ever played Xenoblade? Cause if you think its a PSN or Xlive quality game then you are delusional.

if you say so

Xenoblade Chronicles is as AAA as the Wii gets. Keep in mind it's basically running on 6th gen hardware.

This is true. But on my PC, it looks like a 6th gen HD remake. :)



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