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Subie_Greg on 16 February 2013
Mr Puggsly said:

Oh boy... you're gonna keep arguing moneY? You aren't considering the games. My favorite games to play online aren't on the PS3. Hence, I payed extra to play the games I enjoy. I don't want settle with crap on PS3 because its free to play.

Its actually less than $420 because it became $60 just a few years ago. But that doesn't sound like a lot of money for 7 years of entertainment.

Spin it all you want, but the 360 is actually one of my cheapest entertainment expenses that I get a lot of value from. It doesn't matter if I can save money just playing my PS3 online. The problem is I don't care for what PS3 offers so its not worth my time even for free.


I am not asking this to start a war...

But what is it that you get when you pay for XBL Gold that you don't get for free on PC or PS3?



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platformmaster918 on 16 February 2013
Mr Puggsly said:
platformmaster918 said:
Mr Puggsly said:
platformmaster918 said:
Mr Puggsly said:
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Veknoid_Outcast said:
Microsoft probably has created a better multimedia environment.

That being said, it's games that matter. Not Netflix, not Redbox, not ESPN, not YouTube.

Just give me a disc drive, a CPU, some RAM and processors, and wrap it all up in plastic, metal, and glass. Support it with awesome games. All the other applications and multimedia functions are just gravy.

I don't get how people can say that.  One can play blu-rays and support 7.1 surround, the other can't.  One lets you access almost all the apps of the other one FREE while the other one charges $60 for you to do so every year.  Which one sounds more like the entertainment hub now?

Consider this, you have to be a Gold member to get access to all the entertainment apps on the 360. However, no amount of money is gonna get you access to those same apps on PS3. So even a little extra to use those apps, the 360 still offers more multimedia options.

The high quality sound and picture of Bluray! Well players start at about $50 now. Bluray players seem to do a great job at supporting the rental industry, because I don't know many people actually buying Bluray movies.

Crackle (rarely), Netflix, youtube, etc. are available on PS3.  Sure it can do ESPN I guess but I can watch highlights on my computer (same applies for the other ones too I guess).  My point is not really worth $60 in my estimation, but whatever.  Also high quality sound and Bluray are things you can't get on 360 no matter what you pay so same logic applies and my bluray collection says that does matter.

No, you can get high quality picture and sound on Xbox. It just doesn't play Bluray.

If you really care about Bluray, I'd recommend a Bluray player. But for streaming media, 360 is one of the best devices. Especially compared to other home consoles.

People aren't just paying $60 to access multimedia. Most people pay for online gaming and also take advantage of other online features. For example, I pay the fee to play games, but others and I often use my account for streaming media as well.

Now lets stop pretending $60 is a lot of money for the amount of entertainment the 360 offers. Between online gaming, streaming media, and game discounts, Gold is well worth having. I spent like $60 last on drinks and food last night, that was just a single night of entertainment.

If a person bought a PS3 and a 360 in 06 they probably thought the 360 was $200 cheaper.  Instead they've ended up paying $420 just to play online.  Also PS3 streams stuff just fine.  $60 is the price of a full new retail game.  Also you made my point people are paying to access online gaming, which is free on PS3.  If you think cross game chat (which I've never actually seen anyone use and probably wouldn't myself since I'm normally talking to people in game when do play online and want to be immersed in SP games) is worth the price of a game a year then fine but I don't.

Oh boy... you're gonna keep arguing moneY? You aren't considering the games. My favorite games to play online aren't on the PS3. Hence, I payed extra to play the games I enjoy. I don't want settle with crap on PS3 because its free to play.

Its actually less than $420 because it became $60 just a few years ago. But that doesn't sound like a lot of money for 7 years of entertainment.

Spin it all you want, but the 360 is actually one of my cheapest entertainment expenses that I get a lot of value from. It doesn't matter if I can save money just playing my PS3 online. The problem is I don't care for what PS3 offers so its not worth my time even for free.

oh well why didn't you just say so.  If you really enjoy the 360 exclusives more than that's a good enough reason to prefer it.  Still though you would think you would rather have free online and play those exclusives.  Oh well guess it's nice to have disposable income I wouldn't play online on PS3 if it cost $60 a year.  I only pay for plus because it offers me, as a primarily SP guy (local MP when I do play it) a lot of great experiences (even though those damn Europeans get a lot more awesome games free it's still well worth it).




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Mr Puggsly on 16 February 2013
Subie_Greg said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Oh boy... you're gonna keep arguing moneY? You aren't considering the games. My favorite games to play online aren't on the PS3. Hence, I payed extra to play the games I enjoy. I don't want settle with crap on PS3 because its free to play.

Its actually less than $420 because it became $60 just a few years ago. But that doesn't sound like a lot of money for 7 years of entertainment.

Spin it all you want, but the 360 is actually one of my cheapest entertainment expenses that I get a lot of value from. It doesn't matter if I can save money just playing my PS3 online. The problem is I don't care for what PS3 offers so its not worth my time even for free.


I am not asking this to start a war...

But what is it that you get when you pay for XBL Gold that you don't get for free on PC or PS3?

My favorite online games are 360 exclusives. That's the primary reason I pay.

I've taken advantage of many Deal of Weeks that are exclusive to Gold members. I probably own about 100 LIve Arcade games. That too has justified the costs of Live Gold.

I use and prefer multimedia apps on the 360, but its not the primary reason I pay.

I prefer gaming on consoles and my PC doesn't have the equipment to be connected to a television. Don't feel like making any investment in a better PC because I'm fine with my 360. But I do use my PC as a server to stream video to my Xbox.

If the 360 wasn't an option I guess I could settle with the PS3. But the 360 is an option and I don't mind paying the Gold fee to play what I prefer.



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Mr Puggsly on 16 February 2013
platformmaster918 said:
Mr Puggsly said:
platformmaster918 said:
Mr Puggsly said:
platformmaster918 said:
Mr Puggsly said:
platformmaster918 said:
Veknoid_Outcast said:
Microsoft probably has created a better multimedia environment.

That being said, it's games that matter. Not Netflix, not Redbox, not ESPN, not YouTube.

Just give me a disc drive, a CPU, some RAM and processors, and wrap it all up in plastic, metal, and glass. Support it with awesome games. All the other applications and multimedia functions are just gravy.

I don't get how people can say that.  One can play blu-rays and support 7.1 surround, the other can't.  One lets you access almost all the apps of the other one FREE while the other one charges $60 for you to do so every year.  Which one sounds more like the entertainment hub now?

Consider this, you have to be a Gold member to get access to all the entertainment apps on the 360. However, no amount of money is gonna get you access to those same apps on PS3. So even a little extra to use those apps, the 360 still offers more multimedia options.

The high quality sound and picture of Bluray! Well players start at about $50 now. Bluray players seem to do a great job at supporting the rental industry, because I don't know many people actually buying Bluray movies.

Crackle (rarely), Netflix, youtube, etc. are available on PS3.  Sure it can do ESPN I guess but I can watch highlights on my computer (same applies for the other ones too I guess).  My point is not really worth $60 in my estimation, but whatever.  Also high quality sound and Bluray are things you can't get on 360 no matter what you pay so same logic applies and my bluray collection says that does matter.

No, you can get high quality picture and sound on Xbox. It just doesn't play Bluray.

If you really care about Bluray, I'd recommend a Bluray player. But for streaming media, 360 is one of the best devices. Especially compared to other home consoles.

People aren't just paying $60 to access multimedia. Most people pay for online gaming and also take advantage of other online features. For example, I pay the fee to play games, but others and I often use my account for streaming media as well.

Now lets stop pretending $60 is a lot of money for the amount of entertainment the 360 offers. Between online gaming, streaming media, and game discounts, Gold is well worth having. I spent like $60 last on drinks and food last night, that was just a single night of entertainment.

If a person bought a PS3 and a 360 in 06 they probably thought the 360 was $200 cheaper.  Instead they've ended up paying $420 just to play online.  Also PS3 streams stuff just fine.  $60 is the price of a full new retail game.  Also you made my point people are paying to access online gaming, which is free on PS3.  If you think cross game chat (which I've never actually seen anyone use and probably wouldn't myself since I'm normally talking to people in game when do play online and want to be immersed in SP games) is worth the price of a game a year then fine but I don't.

Oh boy... you're gonna keep arguing moneY? You aren't considering the games. My favorite games to play online aren't on the PS3. Hence, I payed extra to play the games I enjoy. I don't want settle with crap on PS3 because its free to play.

Its actually less than $420 because it became $60 just a few years ago. But that doesn't sound like a lot of money for 7 years of entertainment.

Spin it all you want, but the 360 is actually one of my cheapest entertainment expenses that I get a lot of value from. It doesn't matter if I can save money just playing my PS3 online. The problem is I don't care for what PS3 offers so its not worth my time even for free.

oh well why didn't you just say so.  If you really enjoy the 360 exclusives more than that's a good enough reason to prefer it.  Still though you would think you would rather have free online and play those exclusives.  Oh well guess it's nice to have disposable income I wouldn't play online on PS3 if it cost $60 a year.  I only pay for plus because it offers me, as a primarily SP guy (local MP when I do play it) a lot of great experiences (even though those damn Europeans get a lot more awesome games free it's still well worth it).

Disposable income is nice indeed. But you don't need a lot of disposable income to pay for Xbox Live. Especially if you shop around. I never paid more than $40 for an annual subscription.

I have PS Plus, but I rarely care for the games being offered. For someone or a family with a tight budget, I think its awesome. I won't argue PS3 gives you more bang for your buck. But I rather spend a little more on what I prefer.



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Pemalite on 16 February 2013

 

Mr Puggsly said:

I've taken advantage of many Deal of Weeks that are exclusive to Gold members. I probably own about 100 LIve Arcade games. That too has justified the costs of Live Gold.

The "Deals of the week" are pathetic, Steam shows how it should really be done, some "deals" on arcade games when they are 50% off still cost about as much as an "Arcade" game on Steam at full price.

Besides, some games/DLC that are free on other platforms you actually have to pay for on Live!
You can try and sugar coat it all you want, but Micrososft hasn't exactly priced the content on Live competitively with other platforms.

With that said, I buy Live! to play with mates, it's really not that expensive considering the length of the subscription and Microsoft is a business after all, people are willing to pay for it so Microsoft would be stupid not charge money for it.




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Mr Puggsly on 16 February 2013
Pemalite said:

 

Mr Puggsly said:

I've taken advantage of many Deal of Weeks that are exclusive to Gold members. I probably own about 100 LIve Arcade games. That too has justified the costs of Live Gold.

The "Deals of the week" are pathetic, Steam shows how it should really be done, some "deals" on arcade games when they are 50% off still cost about as much as an "Arcade" game on Steam at full price.

Besides, some games/DLC that are free on other platforms you actually have to pay for on Live!
You can try and sugar coat it all you want, but Micrososft hasn't exactly priced the content on Live competitively with other platforms.

With that said, I buy Live! to play with mates, it's really not that expensive considering the length of the subscription and Microsoft is a business after all, people are willing to pay for it so Microsoft would be stupid not charge money for it.

Great, here is an irrelevant argument.

Steam shows how its done on platform rampant with piracy and generally less profitable. Steam is great, but I like playing games on consoles. Also, lets take into consideration a lot of Live Arcade games I own aren't on Steam or I purchased many before they came to Steam.

What am I sugar coating? I just gave a few reasons I pay for Live. One reason was discounts. I didn't argue they're better discounts than the competition, I'm arguing the discounts add value to my Gold subscription. All the savings combined easily add up to more than I've paid for Gold subscriptions.



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ethomaz on 16 February 2013

I didn't see this thread before... but all the latest MS's comments seems to related to the PS4 announce... surprise? fear? the MS seems to be a little affected with that.



D-Joe on 16 February 2013
ethomaz said:
I didn't see this thread before... but all the latest MS's comments seems to related to the PS4 announce... surprise? fear? the MS seems to be a little affected with that.

There is no "all the latest MS's comments",they commeted once,and just commented by a PR guy,and it's little part of the interview,and the interview is about 360's UK market,not even next gen.But then people suddnely make it like they commented 100+ times,and post the same story over and over again.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5130196

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=47705854&postcount=231

And someone told me last night "everyone already knew that"?lol



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Somini on 16 February 2013

Who is "everybody''? I for one didn't know that!?

What i know is that it's the other way around though, so this PR guy can spin whatever he wants, it won't make it so.



D-Joe on 16 February 2013
Somini said:
Who is "everybody''? I for one didn't know that!?

What i know is that it's the other way around though, so this PR guy can spin whatever he wants, it won't make it so.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5129803

Now list your "We" so i can know who is not part of your "team".

 

Oh and,why make the title completely different?

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5130196



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