So, where is the news?

yea, eurogamer's 9/10 for ZombiU clearly shows that they hate the WiiU

Which "people" are complaining? You? Your friends? Some members on this site? To which "facts" do you refer? The only numbers I saw in your original post was 140 vs. 100. Or, in simpler terms, 2 vs. 1. Which, incidentally, would serve as an appropriate title to this thread.

Here is a fact: Nintendo, against all odds and with inferior horsepower, won the previous generation. That's all I said in my post, which was meant to refute the falsehood in your own.

I don't know what will happen during the eighth generation. And neither do you.

Lastly, you have to get over this weird conviction that PS3, Xbox 360, and PC users are real, "mainstream" video game players, and Nintendo fans are not. Just because YOU do not like the direction Nintendo has chosen, it does not mean everyone does, or everyone should.

The hell? The gpu is slightly better than the one in the 360?? wtf

You all know that when people say the Wii U isn't "next gen" they don't mean it in the "successor"  sense.

They mean that it doesn't have power that distinctively puts it over the PS3 and 360. Just like the Wii had power more comparable to the consoles from the 6th gen consoles.

So please, enough with the semantics already.

The Wii U won't provide a distinct and substantial technical upgrade to separate itself from the PS3 and 360. That's sad. But that doesn't mean it won't be awesome to finally get to play all the great Nintendo franchises in HD!

I remember just before the release of the wii u. They blatantly twisted an interview of the developer behind the sonic all star games.

They changed the answer of the developer  from (or on the same lines of) : " the wii u version is on par with the 360 version" to " the wii u is on par with the 360". They got caught lying and twisting the story. Can't blame me for being skeptical. 

I see the 360 and PS3 sticking around for 4 more years alongside the 720/PS4, and I imagine a lot of those 360/PS3 titles will see release on the Wii U. Whether the Wii U will get PS4/720 multiplats isn't entirely out of the question though until we see their specs. Anyway, i'm sure most consumers buy Nintendo platforms for the first party titles.

People, these are other times, a powerful console for $300 is something from the past, because the inflation change things as the time passes, before the standard was $300, but nowadays is $500-$600+.

People here like to deceive themselves, thinking that a $300 hardware today would be a top hardware as it used to be in the past because they don't consider the economic changes, like the increase of inflation and wages.

I'd rather people be semantically accurate than misuse words to try to enforce their personal bias.

Just like people took until 2011 to stop referring to PS3 and 360 as "next-gen". It was ludicrous for them to be using that term in 2007, and it was bordering on insanity to continue using it in 2010.

The Wii U is next-gen. It is more powerful than the 360 and PS3, it has more input options, and the GPU has features that no Gen 7 GPU has. Whether it's close to the other new consoles in power is completely irrelevant, for the same reason as why it's completely irrelevant that the Vita is significantly more powerful than the 3DS.

And no rational person disputes these facts, or the fact that the Wii U is next-gen. Just as no rational person should have disputed that the Wii was next-gen.

So please, enough with the stupidity already.

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I have a different point of view. This is what I think about Wii and Wii U and which generations they really belong to.

Think about yourself in 30-40 years, when you're explaining to your grandson what a game console was ;) Now you give him all the consoles starting from the NES (let's just skip the older ones), Sega Master, SNES, Mega Drive, PSX, Saturn, N64, Dreamcast and so on up until Wii U, PS4 and X-box 8. You let the kid play every console for an hour and ask him to segregate the consoles into 6 generations. Where would the little kid put the Wii and the Wii U? Just basing on what he experienced, without any additional knowledge.

I think he would put the Wii right next to the PS2, GCN, Dreamcast and X-box. Wii U is still in the air, but so far my bet is he would put it together with PS3 and X-box 360.

This is the way I see this issue.