Found the report for net income it's bad.... 124 million loss.
Nintendo 450 million profit in comparison.
Shares should tank tomorrow.
Found the report for net income it's bad.... 124 million loss.
Nintendo 450 million profit in comparison.
Shares should tank tomorrow.
Ugh was read numbers wrong. Stupid Sony not releasing individual numbers for platforms...
enrageorange said:
0.6mil seems too low. Didn't it ship 0.6mil last quarter and that wasn't a holiday quarter. I would guess 1mil ps2, 5.8mil ps3. Though might be wrong on that 0.6mil. |
Well 2.8 combined Q1 and 3.5 combined Q2. Vgchartz users assumed 1m PS2 for Q1, which has mostly been proven right. That shipment was large enough to sustain Q2. If it did .6m last Q and 1m Q1 then that leaves PS3 at 4.7 then going by your figures PS3 is now at 10.5m PS3. PS2 at 2.6m. I think the general numbers is right for the year just the split up is unknown. Personally I think PS2 shipments dropped and PS3 shipments decreased by .3m for this Q.
at 13.1m combined they expect 2.9m for next Q.
Vinniegambini said:
It's really bad actually. I'm surprised by these numbers and it's one of their strongest pillars. |
Hey, if they can still post a profit while paying for PS4 R&D, all the more power to them. In a quarter or two, there won't be nearly as much cost associated with developing the PS4, so it should look even better for their gaming division.
M.U.G.E.N said:
I thought this doesn't include the sale of the NY building? |
Expected closing date of the sale: March 2013
· Selling price: 1.1 billionU.S.dollars
· Received net cash proceeds of 770 millionU.S.dollars
· Sony expects to realize a gain of 685 millionU.S.dollars as operating profit
Hope this helps.
M.U.G.E.N said:
I thought this doesn't include the sale of the NY building? |
Other assets, NYC building sale will be reflected in Q4. Sony will post a profit for their year-end report because of them selling assets, their business model has not changed. It is a loss making one. They need to react fast.
| legend92(3) said: PS3 has now outshipped xbox 360. PS3 stands at 76 million (if PS2 shipped a million) - 70.5m (if PS2 shipped 500k) Xbox 360 stands at 75.9 |
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Sony presents financials on a consolidated basis, meaning it shows revenue and expenses for companies as if they owned 100% , then pull out the net effect of the portions it doesn't really own. Sony the consoidated presentation was profitable, but Sony the actual company lost 10.8 billion Yen during the 3rd quarter. Hence the outlook for the year in its entirety remained the same, despite Yen depreciation.
The increase in sales for Sony came not from having actually sold more of something, but from how they incorporated Sony Mobile's sales differently this year. Whereas last year, Sony Mobile was accounted under Equity Method (pro rata share of sales reported), this year Sony is showing the whole piece. Hence the statement:
"On a pro forma basis, had Sony Mobile been fully consolidated in the same quarter of the previous fiscal year, consolidated sales would have remained essentially flat."
Sony's financial conditions in fact went downhill in this all important Holiday quarter. More Debt, Less Equity as a result of the net loss.
| legend92(3) said: PS3 has now outshipped xbox 360. PS3 stands at 76 million (if PS2 shipped a million) - 70.5m (if PS2 shipped 500k) Xbox 360 stands at 75.9 |
How do you know? All we know it that PS3 shipments reached 70m in mid-November, right? Not all those 6m are for the last 1.5 months.
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| legend92(3) said: PS3 has now outshipped xbox 360. PS3 stands at 76 million (if PS2 shipped a million) - 70.5m (if PS2 shipped 500k) Xbox 360 stands at 75.9 |
You have your math wrong if PS3 shipped 6.2m they are now at 74.2m.