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doom102575 said:
We actually from these #'s can't say for sure the gaming diving is profitting since Zune and others items like keyboards etc. are all bunched into one group. But being in the black for the entertainment division is a rare thing of late so that is good news for MS.

 

The Entertainment and Devices Division (“EDD”) products include the Xbox 360 platform (which includes the Microsoft Xbox video game console system, Xbox 360 video games, Xbox Live, and Xbox 360 accessories), PC games, consumer software and hardware products, the Zune digital music and entertainment platform, Mediaroom (our internet protocol television software), the Windows Mobile software platform, the Windows Embedded device operating system, and Windows Automotive. The success of video game consoles is determined by console innovation and quality, the portfolio of video game content for the console, online offerings, and the market share of the console. We believe that the functionality of the Xbox 360 console, games portfolio, and online offerings are well positioned relative to competitive consoles.

EDD revenue increased during the three and six months ended December 31, 2007, primarily due to increased Xbox 360 platform sales. During the three months ended December 31, 2007, Xbox platform and PC game revenue increased $115 million or 5% primarily as a result of increased Xbox 360 video game sales, Xbox Live revenue, and Xbox 360 accessory sales, partially offset by decreased Xbox 360 console sales. Xbox platform and PC game revenue increased $1.0 billion or 35% during the six months ended December 31, 2007, as a result of increased Xbox 360 console sales, video game sales led by Halo 3, Xbox Live revenues, and Xbox 360 accessory sales. We shipped 4.3 million and 6.1 million Xbox 360 consoles in the second quarter and first half of fiscal year 2008, respectively, as compared to 4.4 million and 5.4 million Xbox 360 consoles in the second quarter and first half of fiscal year 2007, respectively.

EDD operating income increased during the three months ended December 31, 2007, primarily due to the increased revenue, decreased cost of revenue, and decreased sales and marketing expenses. Cost of revenue decreased $523 million or 22% during the three months ended December 31, 2007, primarily driven by decreased Xbox 360 manufacturing costs. Sales and marketing expenses decreased $81 million or 16%, reflecting a decline in Xbox 360 platform marketing expenses. EDD operating income increased during the six months ended December 31, 2007, primarily due to the increased revenue. Headcount-related expenses increased 17% and 14% during the three and six months ended December 31, 2007, respectively, reflecting a 4% increase in headcount and an increase in salaries and benefits for existing headcount, partially offset by decreased stock-based compensation expense.

For the remainder of fiscal year 2008, we expect revenue to increase due to increased sales of Xbox 360 consoles and related games, accessories, and services. Revenue from existing mobility and embedded devices is expected to increase due to unit volume increases of Windows Mobile software driven by increased market demand for phone-enabled devices and Windows Embedded operating systems.
 
 
 
Xbox 360 is responsible for the profit, 'nuff said.


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FishyJoe said:
It's really puts the pressure on Sony. Shareholders won't sit still if MS and Nintendo are making good profits and Sony is losing big chunks.

This is the key, isn't it?

Regardless of how EAD has been doing - MS has always been making a heap of money overall. Now that EAD is turning a profit, MS will be more happy.

But can they repeat it for a 2nd qrt in a row? Sales will be down dramatically next qrt, and MS will have less "blockbusters" to sell themselves. If only they had a Halo3 every qrt... 

 



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How many more quarters until they actually have a profitable division, not just a quarter?

Also, was this the Halo 3 quarter?



What was Nintendo's net income for the quarter?



In the conference call, they mentioned lower 360 production costs.



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Legend11 said:
What was Nintendo's net income for the quarter?

$1.2 billion



FishyJoe said:
In the conference call, they mentioned lower 360 production costs.

 The Chinese slave labor is getting cheaper, that's all.



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dolemit3 said:

 


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EDD operating income increased during the three months ended December 31, 2007, primarily due to the increased revenue, decreased cost of revenue, and decreased sales and marketing expenses. Cost of revenue decreased $523 million or 22% during the three months ended December 31, 2007, primarily driven by decreased Xbox 360 manufacturing costs. Sales and marketing expenses decreased $81 million or 16%, reflecting a decline in Xbox 360 platform marketing expenses. EDD operating income increased during the six months ended December 31, 2007, primarily due to the increased revenue. Headcount-related expenses increased 17% and 14% during the three and six months ended December 31, 2007, respectively, reflecting a 4% increase in headcount and an increase in salaries and benefits for existing headcount, partially offset by decreased stock-based compensation expense.

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That's interesting. That is a huge drop in costs - the 360 must be becoming *much* cheaper to manufacture than it used to be. No wonder the flakey hardware doesn't bother MS that much.

And a drop in marketing expenses of amost 100m - wow, given it was the Xmas qrt!

...

The difference in revenue between a year and now is basically zero. However, there is a 600m difference in profits - which is pretty close to the $500m saved from costs + $100m saved from marketing.

Hmmm....

(if they follow the same pattern, rinse & repeat - revenue will stay the same, but profits will continue to rise) 

 



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^ But they didn't market Assassin's Creed or Call of Duty 4 right?