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pokoko on 30 January 2013

kain_kusanagi said:

You're twisting my words. I'm not complaining about PS+. I'm stating why it has no value for me. I said I would pay if I got to pick the games I get for "free". I also said that if Sony charged for online gaming I'd pay and not complain. Those are two different things. But I will explain. I don't want to pay for an optional service that doesn't have value to me. I also would prefer to not pay for online gaming. But as with XBL I would pay for PSN if I had to. I wouldn't complain because I'd be paying for something that I want. It would be nice if XBL was free like PSN, but it's not so I pay. However I have the option of not paying for PS+ and instead buying used games on the cheap that I get to keep forever and maintain full ownership rights for.

I actually agree with what you're saying here.  Both PS+ and Xbox Live have relative values that do not appeal to everyone.

Personally, I love PS+.  I've already seen substantial value with discounts.  However, I don't spend a lot of money on gaming, so grabbing something like Unfinished Swan for a few dollars really appeals to me, but I do understand that others might not care about saving $5 here or there.  For me, that alone pays for PS+.  I LOVE the auto-updates and patching, but again, not everyone will care.

The value of the Instant Game Collection is also relative.  If you buy all the games you want, and like having a physical copy for everything, then Plus probably isn't for you.  I only care about physical copies for games I really, really like, though, so I'm fine with a digital copy of most games that I'll only play once.  Since I wait for a lot of games to drop in price to play them, and there are a lot of games I want to play but are on a back-burner, Plus is perfect for me.

I also want to point out that for Vita owners like me, the value of Plus rises exponentially.  I'm downloading Ninja Gaiden Sigma Plus as we speak, a game I kind of want to play but probably would not have bought anytime soon.

I feel the same way about Live, for the most part, except I don't like the things Live takes away.  It's honestly the biggest problem I have with the Xbox.  I'm only a "now and then" multi-player, so there is zero chance of me paying for a service I barely use.  The value just isn't there for me.  What I don't like is that I would have to pay if I just wanted to play around on the multi-player for a game I just bought to see if I liked it.  There is also functions like video streaming being behind a pay-gate, which I do not like at all.  In effect, Microsoft forces me to not buy an Xbox.  However, if you're a person who likes multi-player above all else, then I can see the value in it for you.  I really have no problem with people paying for Live; my problem is with Microsoft for taking the value out Live for people who care more about the single-player experience.



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maximus22 on 30 January 2013

I agree with everything he said except for the lack of vita support. With having added Ninja Gaiden Sigma plus for free last night, I have enough free games for my vita already to last me at least a year. PS plus is basically a cheap bastards dream come true. You can get all the games you could ever play for $50 a year.

I love PS plus almost as much as my vita. I hate to sound like a Sony groupie but they have just stepped their game up and are firing from all cylinders.



kain_kusanagi on 30 January 2013
VGKing said:
kain_kusanagi said:
ps3-sales! said:
VGKing said:
kain_kusanagi said:
I honestly don't understand why so many Sony fans are so in love with PS +. You pay for Sony to pick games for you. What if you don't want those games? If you do you like the games you have to keep paying or you'll lose it. The sales are fine, but again you're paying Sony to choose what to discount for you. It's more like a rental system, but you only get to rent what Sony picks out from it's basket of stuff they that has already paid for itself or isn't selling.

You get free games, not just discounts.

Those free games may be game you've always wanted to try or missed. In my case its Borerlands and Bioshock 2. Yes, Sony chooses the games and thats the whole point of it. They give us a chance to try these games they know many of us missed or in some cases it can be used as a promotional tool to promote the sequel.(as with Bioshock 2)

WE DO NOT LOSE THE GAMES ONCE WE STOP SUBSCRIBING. We just lose access to them. But then again, why would you unsubscribe? By the time your subscribition ends, odds are you've already gotten more than your moneys worth. Odds are you're not even playing these games anymore so it wouldn't matter you can't play them anymore.

I myself just finished Bioshock 2 and plan on buying Infinite in the future. This is the magic of Playstation Plus. 

Your argument that you dont' get to choose what games to play is just ridiculous. Plus isn't a rental service. It is not like Netflix. However, you do get a LARGE library of 1-hour game trials. That's alone may be worth it to some people. You can try the new Medal of Honor or Battlefield 3 for example.

Don't bother with him. He's obviously butt hurt that he doesn't have access to Playstation plus. 

What are you talking about? I have access to PS+ just like any PS3 owner. It just doesn't offer me anything I want. Don't make assumption about people you don't know. I bought my PS3 for Team Ico and since that hasn't happened this gen I have number of exclusives that I've enjoyed that made it worth it. PS+ has very little that appeals to me.

The games it gives for "free" are all games I could get for a few bucks in a used bin at my local used game store. I bought a used copy of Bioshock 2 for about $5 and if I had any interest in Borderlands it was about the same. Luckily I didn't have to pay for the game I wansn't interesting in. I don't miss out on games, I buy the ones I want most and wait for cheap used prices on the ones I'm less interested in. And I get to keep them forever with no need to pay a subscription to play them in the future. I'd pay for PS+ if it let me play anything in the entire library, but it doesn't so I'm not interested. I also have don't like paying for a digital copy of anything that I can get a physicle copy of. When I pay for something I want full ownership rights, but Sony treats PS+ "free" games as rentals without letting me pick out the games to rent.

It's not about the money. If you had to pay for PS+ to get access to online gaming I'd pay it and I wouldn't complain. And I'm not even complaining about PS+. All I'm saying is I don't have any interesting in paying for an optional service that has nothing to offer me that I want.

There you go. Glad you finally came out and said it. You basically hate digital distribution.

I prefer physical as well, but if I'm getting lots of free games then I don't need them in physical form. Besides PS+ offers PSN games you can't get via retail such as Outland and Scott Pilgrim. You're probably not interested in those either right? Physical or nothing.

I bought Outland back when it came out, it's pretty good. I have not into beat'em ups like Scott Pilgram. One of my favorite games of last year, Quantum Conundrum, was digital only. If it had had a retail release I would have bought it on disc, but since it didn't I was forced to buy digital.