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platformmaster918 on 29 January 2013
kain_kusanagi said:
platformmaster918 said:
kain_kusanagi said:
I honestly don't understand why so many Sony fans are so in love with PS +. You pay for Sony to pick games for you. What if you don't want those games? If you do you like the games you have to keep paying or you'll lose it. The sales are fine, but again you're paying Sony to choose what to discount for you. It's more like a rental system, but you only get to rent what Sony picks out from it's basket of stuff they that has already paid for itself or isn't selling.

I paid $50 in August and have downloaded over $200 worth of games that I've played all the way through and sometimes platinumed.  I don't like every game they have but I mean even if you only like a tenth of the stuff they put up free (not counting discounts) you still get your money's worth.  Not to mention the cloud saves and beta access.


I'm glad you like it, but the list of gameseither don't interest me or I've allready played it. The rare games on the list I am interested in and don't have would cost me less to just buy than to pay for PS+ and I wouldn't have to keep paying to keep playing. I'm just not going to pay a company to pick out what games I play.

dude you pay $50 for a YEAR.  That's less than one retail game.  The instant game collection pays for it immediately if you like Infamous 2 and LBP2 (which you should haha).  Not to mention I sold my copies for over the $50 so that made it immediately pay off.




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Jazz2K on 29 January 2013

I'm one of those guys that pays for Xbox Live and couldn't careless about what PS+ has to offer. People brag about free games and all but if that's all Sony needed to convince people to pay for their service then I don't think it's better at all.

I will eventually buy a PS3, maybe this year, but paying for PSN is a no way. I will keep my gold subscription because it works really well and I prefer to get games like Trials than free retail games I get to keep until I stop my subscription.



VGKing on 29 January 2013
kain_kusanagi said:
I honestly don't understand why so many Sony fans are so in love with PS +. You pay for Sony to pick games for you. What if you don't want those games? If you do you like the games you have to keep paying or you'll lose it. The sales are fine, but again you're paying Sony to choose what to discount for you. It's more like a rental system, but you only get to rent what Sony picks out from it's basket of stuff they that has already paid for itself or isn't selling.

You get free games, not just discounts.

Those free games may be game you've always wanted to try or missed. In my case its Borerlands and Bioshock 2. Yes, Sony chooses the games and thats the whole point of it. They give us a chance to try these games they know many of us missed or in some cases it can be used as a promotional tool to promote the sequel.(as with Bioshock 2)

WE DO NOT LOSE THE GAMES ONCE WE STOP SUBSCRIBING. We just lose access to them. But then again, why would you unsubscribe? By the time your subscribition ends, odds are you've already gotten more than your moneys worth. Odds are you're not even playing these games anymore so it wouldn't matter you can't play them anymore.

I myself just finished Bioshock 2 and plan on buying Infinite in the future. This is the magic of Playstation Plus. 

Your argument that you dont' get to choose what games to play is just ridiculous. Plus isn't a rental service. It is not like Netflix. However, you do get a LARGE library of 1-hour game trials. That's alone may be worth it to some people. You can try the new Medal of Honor or Battlefield 3 for example.



Stinky on 29 January 2013

I'd be interested to find out how PS+ works out financially for both Sony and the publishers who supply back catalogue.



ps3-sales! on 29 January 2013

I agree completely. Plus is fantastic.



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VGKing on 29 January 2013
kain_kusanagi said:
platformmaster918 said:
kain_kusanagi said:
I honestly don't understand why so many Sony fans are so in love with PS +. You pay for Sony to pick games for you. What if you don't want those games? If you do you like the games you have to keep paying or you'll lose it. The sales are fine, but again you're paying Sony to choose what to discount for you. It's more like a rental system, but you only get to rent what Sony picks out from it's basket of stuff they that has already paid for itself or isn't selling.

I paid $50 in August and have downloaded over $200 worth of games that I've played all the way through and sometimes platinumed.  I don't like every game they have but I mean even if you only like a tenth of the stuff they put up free (not counting discounts) you still get your money's worth.  Not to mention the cloud saves and beta access.


I'm glad you like it, but the list of gameseither don't interest me or I've allready played it. The rare games on the list I am interested in and don't have would cost me less to just buy than to pay for PS+ and I wouldn't have to keep paying to keep playing. I'm just not going to pay a company to pick out what games I play.



Sounds to me like you're just in denial. You refuse to acknowledge that Playstation Plus is a great service. You can still buy the new Call of Duty of FIFA every year. PS Plus freebies can be your in-between games. I think PS+ offers the best value to new PS3 owners or those who only buy 1 or 2 games a year. Even I who consider myself a core gamer missed out on many great games which I hope they offer on Plus.

ps3-sales! on 29 January 2013
VGKing said:
kain_kusanagi said:
I honestly don't understand why so many Sony fans are so in love with PS +. You pay for Sony to pick games for you. What if you don't want those games? If you do you like the games you have to keep paying or you'll lose it. The sales are fine, but again you're paying Sony to choose what to discount for you. It's more like a rental system, but you only get to rent what Sony picks out from it's basket of stuff they that has already paid for itself or isn't selling.

You get free games, not just discounts.

Those free games may be game you've always wanted to try or missed. In my case its Borerlands and Bioshock 2. Yes, Sony chooses the games and thats the whole point of it. They give us a chance to try these games they know many of us missed or in some cases it can be used as a promotional tool to promote the sequel.(as with Bioshock 2)

WE DO NOT LOSE THE GAMES ONCE WE STOP SUBSCRIBING. We just lose access to them. But then again, why would you unsubscribe? By the time your subscribition ends, odds are you've already gotten more than your moneys worth. Odds are you're not even playing these games anymore so it wouldn't matter you can't play them anymore.

I myself just finished Bioshock 2 and plan on buying Infinite in the future. This is the magic of Playstation Plus. 

Your argument that you dont' get to choose what games to play is just ridiculous. Plus isn't a rental service. It is not like Netflix. However, you do get a LARGE library of 1-hour game trials. That's alone may be worth it to some people. You can try the new Medal of Honor or Battlefield 3 for example.

Don't bother with him. He's obviously butt hurt that he doesn't have access to Playstation plus. 



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Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 on 29 January 2013
VGKing said:
kain_kusanagi said:
I honestly don't understand why so many Sony fans are so in love with PS +. You pay for Sony to pick games for you. What if you don't want those games? If you do you like the games you have to keep paying or you'll lose it. The sales are fine, but again you're paying Sony to choose what to discount for you. It's more like a rental system, but you only get to rent what Sony picks out from it's basket of stuff they that has already paid for itself or isn't selling.

You get free games, not just discounts.

Those free games may be game you've always wanted to try or missed. In my case its Borerlands and Bioshock 2. Yes, Sony chooses the games and thats the whole point of it. They give us a chance to try these games they know many of us missed or in some cases it can be used as a promotional tool to promote the sequel.(as with Bioshock 2)

WE DO NOT LOSE THE GAMES ONCE WE STOP SUBSCRIBING. We just lose access to them. But then again, why would you unsubscribe? By the time your subscribition ends, odds are you've already gotten more than your moneys worth. Odds are you're not even playing these games anymore so it wouldn't matter you can't play them anymore.

I myself just finished Bioshock 2 and plan on buying Infinite in the future. This is the magic of Playstation Plus. 

Your argument that you dont' get to choose what games to play is just ridiculous. Plus isn't a rental service. It is not like Netflix. However, you do get a LARGE library of 1-hour game trials. That's alone may be worth it to some people. You can try the new Medal of Honor or Battlefield 3 for example.

While I do agree that Ps+ humiliates MS. Dont go as far as saying that downloading free games from Ps+ is not renting becuase that is plain lying. 



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Chunli on 29 January 2013
VGKing said:
kain_kusanagi said:
platformmaster918 said:
kain_kusanagi said:
I honestly don't understand why so many Sony fans are so in love with PS +. You pay for Sony to pick games for you. What if you don't want those games? If you do you like the games you have to keep paying or you'll lose it. The sales are fine, but again you're paying Sony to choose what to discount for you. It's more like a rental system, but you only get to rent what Sony picks out from it's basket of stuff they that has already paid for itself or isn't selling.

I paid $50 in August and have downloaded over $200 worth of games that I've played all the way through and sometimes platinumed.  I don't like every game they have but I mean even if you only like a tenth of the stuff they put up free (not counting discounts) you still get your money's worth.  Not to mention the cloud saves and beta access.


I'm glad you like it, but the list of gameseither don't interest me or I've allready played it. The rare games on the list I am interested in and don't have would cost me less to just buy than to pay for PS+ and I wouldn't have to keep paying to keep playing. I'm just not going to pay a company to pick out what games I play.


Sounds to me like you're just in denial. You refuse to acknowledge that Playstation Plus is a great service. You can still buy the new Call of Duty of FIFA every year. PS Plus freebies can be your in-between games. I think PS+ offers the best value to new PS3 owners or those who only buy 1 or 2 games a year. Even I who consider myself a core gamer missed out on many great games which I hope they offer on Plus.

Just ignore him.
Let him pay his money just to be able to play online on his precious can-never-do-wrong Xbox Live. While we pay the same amount and get free games + online. =)

You can always trust the same few people to say negative things about Sony whenever theres good news about them. I joined in late 2012. I'm already used to it!. 

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greenmedic88 on 29 January 2013

A a year's worth of rentals for a year of PSN+ is just a *tad* bit different than renting a game for an evening or weekend as a single transaction.

It should be pointed out that any content purchased via PSN+ discount is permanently active. No rental or restrictions there.

While I wouldn't be one to want to restrict myself solely to what was offered on the free games queue (I prefer to buy my own games although I still see value in the discounts if one buys a lot of PSN content), the reality is a lot of players aren't so picky or don't play dozens of games every year and don't feel the need to actually buy any retail games if they pay $50 for a year's subscription. At all. As in buy nothing else. For a library of full games.

The only thing I get out of an XBL Gold subscription is the ability to play the handful of exclusive Xbox shooters online after I've already purchased the games themselves. There's something fundamentally wrong with this business model for consumers.

All the other services I have access to on all my other online devices, so that's hardly what I'd justify a subscription for. Cross game chat? Don't use it; don't need it. Not even worth a plugged nickel to someone like myself.

The end result is if my subscription isn't current, I won't bother buying the Xbox version of any game if I can play it on PC or the PS3 or any other device. As a result, the Xbox sees very little use. Halo 4 was the last game and may even be the last game I buy for the system unless the next Gears of War convinces me to pick it up. Never finished Gears 2 or 3 and spent less than a week playing each online, so probably not unless it legitimately brings something new.