It's your fault for making another shit operating system, just re-release Windows XP with proper 64bit support.
It's your fault for making another shit operating system, just re-release Windows XP with proper 64bit support.
Alby_da_Wolf said:
We should also consider that MS and Intel are giants compared to most traditional PC makers, they have far more cash available and MS also hugely greater profit margin, so in the past they could grab them by the throat, also helped by the slow US antitrust, that still stuck to the past, when IBM was the market leader, paralysed the only company powerful enough in the '90s and the 2000s to compete with the new SW-HW duopoly, that instead was repeatedly allowed to break every rule about fair play against smaller competitors being at most fined by laughably low sums. But now, trying to merge PC with smartphones and tablets, MS made a terrible mistake, as it finds itself facing new HW partners that enjoy far larger revenues and profit margins than old PC makers, and that have been used to install different OS on their current best-selling devices for years, so they didn't allow MS to build its legacy power on their market, and that don't need to concede Intel the exclusivity to receive some marketing help, nor they have to give it to MS on OS to obtain a better price on it. |
Who cares? They still dominated the OS market for decades because of lack of competition. Once competition comes watch them scramble. Microsoft works better when they are above the competition.
Alby_da_Wolf said:
We should also consider that MS and Intel are giants compared to most traditional PC makers, they have far more cash available and MS also hugely greater profit margin, so in the past they could grab them by the throat, also helped by the slow US antitrust, that still stuck to the past, when IBM was the market leader, paralysed the only company powerful enough in the '90s and the 2000s to compete with the new SW-HW duopoly, that instead was repeatedly allowed to break every rule about fair play against smaller competitors being at most fined by laughably low sums. But now, trying to merge PC with smartphones and tablets, MS made a terrible mistake, as it finds itself facing new HW partners that enjoy far larger revenues and profit margins than old PC makers, and that have been used to install different OS on their current best-selling devices for years, so they didn't allow MS to build its legacy power on their market, and that don't need to concede Intel the exclusivity to receive some marketing help, nor they have to give it to MS on OS to obtain a better price on it. |
I see what you are saying. I don't however see Intel losing power. Intel processors run MacOS, Linux, Unix, Windows, ChromeOS.. pretty much any damn thing.
Intel is also a big promoter of linux and open-source. They don't care what the OS is as long as in runs on their chips and they contiunue to profit.
The following extract is taken from their website:
For over two decades, Intel’s contributions to open-source projects—from one end of the solution stack to the other—have helped ensure that a breadth of solutions run exceptionally well on Intel® architecture. Through global collaboration, we’ve helped to build a vibrant ecosystem where everyone can prosper. And there’s plenty more to come.
Intel is positioning itself for whatever future there is too come. Funny thing on their website is that there are two languages to choose from. English or S.Chinese.
justinian said:
I see what you are saying. I don't however see Intel losing power. Intel processors run MacOS, Linux, Unix, Windows, ChromeOS.. pretty much any damn thing. Intel is also a big promoter of linux and open-source. They don't care what the OS is as long as in runs on their chips and they contiunue to profit. The following extract is taken from their website: For over two decades, Intel’s contributions to open-source projects—from one end of the solution stack to the other—have helped ensure that a breadth of solutions run exceptionally well on Intel® architecture. Through global collaboration, we’ve helped to build a vibrant ecosystem where everyone can prosper. And there’s plenty more to come. Intel is positioning itself for whatever future there is too come. Funny thing on their website is that there are two languages to choose from. English or S.Chinese. |
Yes, I agree tha Intel has a strong probability to keep on thriving, but like MS it will have to give up the way it was dominating PC world: on PCs Intel was able, thanks to its enormous power, even to do fishy things to stop AMD competition during those 7 years when Athlons regularly outperformed Pentiums and the first Core Duos on desktops, and also in the previous years, when K6s were a little step behind, but beat them for value, and antitrust authorities did little and late against it, with strong pressures not only on PC makers, but even on technical press and retailers (Media Markt/MediaWorld/Saturn,the biggest chain of electronic and household appliance stores in Europe, for example, had an agreement for years with Intel to NOT sell PCs with AMD CPUs, until, far too late, antitrust stopped it).
Now, in the expanded market, Intel can still thrive and grow, it can even grow more than before, but it can't even dream about having the almost undisputed power it has on PCs.
NB Both Intel and MS have all the time they need to adapt, as even blurring that line, smartphone- and tablet-derived devices still mostly lack the computing power necessary to replace x86 desktop and high-end portable PCs, and they could keep on lacking it for a very long time, but as their performances grow anyway roughly at the same rate of high-end PCs, sooner or later the time will come when their performances will be enough for the needs of most users.
MS need to take the blame for Win8, uf i was a hardware company i wouldnt take Ms hardware advise. they don't have a good track record