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bouzane on 16 January 2013
MDMAlliance said:
bouzane said:
MDMAlliance said:
bouzane said: Finally, even if you could push a magick button and erase all firearms from existance then guess what, people could simply result to using explosives instead. You can level a building and kill hundreds of people with little more than common household items if you so desired. You can create effective explosives with corn starch, yes you read that right, scorn starch! Stop handing over your rights to the obtrusive nanny-state and stop granting them more power and control.


I'm not going to respond to your initial point as I already know CRIMINALS can get around it easily regardless.  

But this point, I would like to say that you DO get tracked if you buy certain items that can be used to make a bomb.  If you were to try and make a bomb yourself, you would find that it is more difficult to get away with making a bomb to blow stuff up than to get a gun and shoot people.


I get tracked whenever I purchase corn starch, electrical cables, springs, particle board and AA batteries?


The government looks at the stuff you buy if it's suspicious.  They would watch you, so it wont exactly be something you can easily do.  If it were so easy, it would  be a much cheaper alternative to buying assault weapons to kill groups of people.


The thing is though, it really is that simple. Gun control only stops the stupid lunatics. The determined ones will find a way no matter how many laws and regulations you implement. The items that I listed are all that you need to create a powerful explosive, in fact, you don't even need all of those items. Additionally, what's suspicious about the things in that list? They are all extremely benign and even if they were not, there are even more innocuous alternatives. Again, it is literally impossible to stop an explosives expert.



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Ckmlb1 on 16 January 2013
NobleTeam360 said:
Oh yeah and some republicans are introducing legislation to impeach Obama.

Good luck passing it is what I say to them. If they had legitimate cause it would pass easily in a congress full with rabid Obama haters that don't even think he's born in America.



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__XBrawlX__ on 16 January 2013

Why is this thread not locked already? Reported for obvious flaming/ trolling.



 

 

 

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Ckmlb1 on 16 January 2013
NobleTeam360 said:
Ckmlb1 said:
NobleTeam360 said:

Obama has broke so many laws domestic and internationally that he should of been impeached a long time ago. 

If the Repubicans in congress had any grounds to impeach Obama they would have already done it (they don't have anything). They impeached Clinton for lying about a blowjob...


I'm just a civilian so I don't know what is going on behind closed doors. If the republicans really wanted to impeach him going into other countries without permission from those countries (Pakistan and Libya) is punishable. I bet if we did that to someone like Russia or China we would be a real trouble right now. 

I'm pretty sure neither Afghanistan and Iraq gave us permission to go into those countries either. Also you were against getting Bin Laden then? If it wasn't for going into Pakistan without permission they never would have gotten him.



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fordy on 16 January 2013
NobleTeam360 said:
Ckmlb1 said:
NobleTeam360 said:

Obama has broke so many laws domestic and internationally that he should of been impeached a long time ago. 

If the Repubicans in congress had any grounds to impeach Obama they would have already done it (they don't have anything). They impeached Clinton for lying about a blowjob...


I'm just a civilian so I don't know what is going on behind closed doors. If the republicans really wanted to impeach him going into other countries without permission from those countries (Pakistan and Libya) is punishable. I bet if we did that to someone like Russia or China we would be a real trouble right now. 


We do that to Russia and China, though in more subtle ways. They do it to America, too...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espionage



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dsgrue3 on 16 January 2013

It took police 20 minutes to arrive at Sandy Hook elementary school.

Adam Lanza could have inflicted as much damage as he wanted with smaller clips. Stupid discussion. This doesn't prevent anything.



kain_kusanagi on 16 January 2013
fordy said:
kain_kusanagi said:
fordy said:
kain_kusanagi said:
Ckmlb1 said:
JoeTheBro said:

About 70% of America is strongly against these gun laws, we will not let it pass!

Wrong! 6 in 10 Americans support tougher gun laws. 


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-34222_162-57564252-10391739/poll-6-in-10-favor-tougher-gun-laws/

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/01/16/cnn-poll-majority-approve-of-obama-biden-in-advance-of-gun-control-announcement/

Anyone too dumb to hang up on an interupting polster doesn't represent the common sense of general public. I say no thanks to every poll phone call and ask to never be called again. Excuse me if I don't trust the stats collected from who too stupid or loney to hang up.

If you don't want your voice to be heard, whose fault is that?

It's like saying "I didn't vote, but the results are not a clear representation of what we all wanted".

No, it's like voting and while leaving refusing to tell the polster how you voted.

I will call my represetives and tell them how I feel, but I'm not going to talk to a stranger on a phone with an agenda and trick questions.

Well if you admit to NOT taking the poll and then complaining if the polls go against your opinion, then all I can say is, sad day for you. 


No. I'm not complaining. I don't pay attention to any polls for the reason I have explained to you. You will never find me quoting any poll's data for any reason except to point out that people are stupid. If on any day you answer the phone and waste your time giving answeres to those who spin, then all I can say is, sad day for you.



Torillian on 16 January 2013
bouzane said:


The thing is though, it really is that simple. Gun control only stops the stupid lunatics. The determined ones will find a way no matter how many laws and regulations you implement. The items that I listed are all that you need to create a powerful explosive, in fact, you don't even need all of those items. Additionally, what's suspicious about the things in that list? They are all extremely benign and even if they were not, there are even more innocuous alternatives. Again, it is literally impossible to stop an explosives expert.


What's so bad about stopping the stupid lunatics?  I'm all for it.  



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fordy on 16 January 2013
kain_kusanagi said:
fordy said:
kain_kusanagi said:
fordy said:
kain_kusanagi said:
Ckmlb1 said:
JoeTheBro said:

About 70% of America is strongly against these gun laws, we will not let it pass!

Wrong! 6 in 10 Americans support tougher gun laws. 


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-34222_162-57564252-10391739/poll-6-in-10-favor-tougher-gun-laws/

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/01/16/cnn-poll-majority-approve-of-obama-biden-in-advance-of-gun-control-announcement/

Anyone too dumb to hang up on an interupting polster doesn't represent the common sense of general public. I say no thanks to every poll phone call and ask to never be called again. Excuse me if I don't trust the stats collected from who too stupid or loney to hang up.

If you don't want your voice to be heard, whose fault is that?

It's like saying "I didn't vote, but the results are not a clear representation of what we all wanted".

No, it's like voting and while leaving refusing to tell the polster how you voted.

I will call my represetives and tell them how I feel, but I'm not going to talk to a stranger on a phone with an agenda and trick questions.

Well if you admit to NOT taking the poll and then complaining if the polls go against your opinion, then all I can say is, sad day for you. 


No. I'm not complaining. I don't pay attention to any polls for the reason I have explained to you. You will never find me quoting any poll's data for any reason except to point out that people are stupid. If on any day you answer the phone and waste your time giving answeres to those who spin, then all I can say is, sad day for you.

I'll answer any poll that I find worthy of an answer. Otherwise, polls I don't answer in don't bother me with the outcome. However, you seemed to be bothered with the outcome of that poll, and not the one above it for some reason, almost like you have some kind of agenda.

Care to explain?



bouzane on 16 January 2013
Torillian said:
bouzane said:


The thing is though, it really is that simple. Gun control only stops the stupid lunatics. The determined ones will find a way no matter how many laws and regulations you implement. The items that I listed are all that you need to create a powerful explosive, in fact, you don't even need all of those items. Additionally, what's suspicious about the things in that list? They are all extremely benign and even if they were not, there are even more innocuous alternatives. Again, it is literally impossible to stop an explosives expert.


What's so bad about stopping the stupid lunatics?  I'm all for it.  

 

You have to violate Constitutional freedoms and advance a large, obtrusive government to do so. Creating a police state is not a price worth paying, especially considering the fact that it is inherently anti-American as the founding fathers would never have supported doing so. Additionally, I should have stated that you MIGHT stop SOME OF the stupid lunatics, there are no guarantees that this would be effective in any way shape or form. Also, additional gun control serves as a lucrative business opportunity to gun traffickers and other organized criminals.