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Ckmlb1 said:
dsgrue3 said:
The only issue is really the weapons. CNN reporting that the Bushmaster Rifle was left in the trunk (they claimed multiple sources for this information) and the medical examiner claiming it was the primary weapon used are conflicting. Furthermore only hand guns were recovered inside.

Everything else is pretty wishy washy.


News networks report wrong things on breaking news pretty often.They corrected the info since then http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/18/us/connecticut-lanza-guns/index.html

The previous report cited federal officials, not realistic to suggest they got their information wrong...

From your cited article:

"Police didn't offer details about the specific model of the rifle Lanza used." - why is this? we know the exact weapons used in the Columbine shootings. 



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dsgrue3 said:
Ckmlb1 said:
mysticwolf said:
Yep, because a school, the police, and the media all joined in on a conspiracy.
That makes sense.



Yeah the grand conspiracy of actors and officials is just nonsense but the conflicting reports of the weapons is what bothers me.

The only merit to 9/11 conspiracy stuff is the pentagon aspect. No video of a plane heading toward it or hitting it.

Why would there be someone randomly filming the pentagon the exact moment the plane hit? Why would they fake a pentagon attack when there were already attacks at the WTC that would justify a response?

The conflicting info about guns is bad early reporting, who knows who the federal sources were and what they actually knew when a news network is trying to get the fastest info and scoop to beat competitors they reach for any source they can even if it turns out to be wrong. CNN should have done a better job reporting.



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Ckmlb1 said:
dsgrue3 said:
Ckmlb1 said:
mysticwolf said:
Yep, because a school, the police, and the media all joined in on a conspiracy.
That makes sense.



Yeah the grand conspiracy of actors and officials is just nonsense but the conflicting reports of the weapons is what bothers me.

The only merit to 9/11 conspiracy stuff is the pentagon aspect. No video of a plane heading toward it or hitting it.

Why would there be someone randomly filming the pentagon the exact moment the plane hit? Why would they fake a pentagon attack when there were already attacks at the WTC that would justify a response?

The conflicting info about guns is bad early reporting, who knows who the federal sources were and what they actually knew when a news network is trying to get the fastest info and scoop to beat competitors they reach for any source they can even if it turns out to be wrong. CNN should have done a better job reporting.

There are tons of cameras around the pentagon. Not a one caught the "plane" only an explosion. Furthermore, where is the plane debris? 

You didn't address why we still have no info of the particular weapon used. Why was this information not released?



dsgrue3 said:
Ckmlb1 said:
dsgrue3 said:
Ckmlb1 said:
mysticwolf said:
Yep, because a school, the police, and the media all joined in on a conspiracy.
That makes sense.



Yeah the grand conspiracy of actors and officials is just nonsense but the conflicting reports of the weapons is what bothers me.

The only merit to 9/11 conspiracy stuff is the pentagon aspect. No video of a plane heading toward it or hitting it.

Why would there be someone randomly filming the pentagon the exact moment the plane hit? Why would they fake a pentagon attack when there were already attacks at the WTC that would justify a response?

The conflicting info about guns is bad early reporting, who knows who the federal sources were and what they actually knew when a news network is trying to get the fastest info and scoop to beat competitors they reach for any source they can even if it turns out to be wrong. CNN should have done a better job reporting.

There are tons of cameras around the pentagon. Not a one caught the "plane" only an explosion. Furthermore, where is the plane debris? 

You didn't address why we still have no info of the particular weapon used. Why was this information not released?


http://www.redstate.com/2012/12/27/setting-the-record-straight-adam-lanza-did-use-the-bushmaster-ar-15/

That's from a pro gun, anti Obama site.

If the plane didn't crash into the Pentagon then what happened to Flight 77 and all its passengers? Did they just disappear forever coincidentally at the same time as the crash into the Pentagon? And again why fake a Pentagon attack when the WTC ws already attacked twice?



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richardhutnik said:
adriane23 said:
richardhutnik said:
CNN had this up. SERIOUSLY people? SERIOUSLY? Am I supposed to drive 1 hour out to the town to investigate these conspiracy theories? I could also go down to NYC and confirm the WTC are still standing if you like.

All I can say is this...
http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2013/01/11/kth-exposing-newtown-conspiracy-theory/?iref=allsearch


Nice. Is there a way to embed CNN videos? If not, I'm just going to add this link to the OP.

I am not sure how.  They may want to just drive traffic to the website.

Anyhow, I am getting close to a loss of words at the amount of inane stupidity I am seen fostered over the Internet.  We have the greatest communications and networking technological revolution in human history wih the Internet and BAM, have to get people coming up stuff that would of been confined to mental institutions before now.  Now the most outrageous gets covered and tips virally.  But enough about Kony.

Yeah, but I expect the stupidity. I'd actually be surprised if there was less stupidity and nonsense coming from the internet. Crazy people can find each other so easily now.



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Ckmlb1 said:

http://www.redstate.com/2012/12/27/setting-the-record-straight-adam-lanza-did-use-the-bushmaster-ar-15/

That's from a pro gun, anti Obama site.

If the plane didn't crash into the Pentagon then what happened to Flight 77 and all its passengers? Did they just disappear forever coincidentally at the same time as the crash into the Pentagon? And again why fake a Pentagon attack when the WTC ws already attacked twice?

Site doesn't seem credible, but I did some more research from CNN and seems like they finally squared away their story about the weapons used. Chalk it up to early reporting. 

Flight 77 didn't exist according to BTS.



dsgrue3 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
dsgrue3 said:
Most damning evidence is no surveillance footage of the shooter(s). Not a single frame showing a guy walking around the school with a gun.

Let's see the footage:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/release-video-surveillance-footage-sandy-hook-elementary-school-during-shooting-massacre/Nq9zmSTc



Has any school shootings have security footage shown? Also, I'm glad it only has 900 signatures. I hope the CIA visits each person who has signed it


Yep, most actually. Columbine had plenty. You're kinda ignorant on the matter, probably shouldn't comment until you've done some research.

Annecdote: A student at my old high school had a heated argument with one of the school staff members in the morning. He came back in the afternoon with a gun. The staff member, who was in charge of the surveilance cameras at the time, saw him pacing around in the school near the back exit. He must not have remembered that the school had cameras by all the doors, because he pulled out the gun, cocked it, and proceded to walk down the hallway. The staff member alerted security and he was tackled and subdued until the police arrived police.



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adriane23 said:

Annecdote: A student at my old high school had a heated argument with one of the school staff members in the morning. He came back in the afternoon with a gun. The staff member, who was in charge of the surveilance cameras at the time, saw him pacing around in the school near the back exit. He must not have remembered that the school had cameras by all the doors, because he pulled out the gun, cocked it, and proceded to walk down the hallway. The staff member alerted security and he was tackled and subdued until the police arrived police.

That person deserves a Klondike bar. That's intense. Most I ever had was bomb threats which never amounted to anything. I think people just called them in to avoid tests, swear it happened at least once a year in HS.



dsgrue3 said:
adriane23 said:

Annecdote: A student at my old high school had a heated argument with one of the school staff members in the morning. He came back in the afternoon with a gun. The staff member, who was in charge of the surveilance cameras at the time, saw him pacing around in the school near the back exit. He must not have remembered that the school had cameras by all the doors, because he pulled out the gun, cocked it, and proceded to walk down the hallway. The staff member alerted security and he was tackled and subdued until the police arrived police.

That person deserves a Klondike bar. That's intense. Most I ever had was bomb threats which never amounted to anything. I think people just called them in to avoid tests, swear it happened at least once a year in HS.

Yeah that happened at my old high school too. Free day!



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Ckmlb1 said:
dsgrue3 said:
Ckmlb1 said:
mysticwolf said:
Yep, because a school, the police, and the media all joined in on a conspiracy.
That makes sense.



Yeah the grand conspiracy of actors and officials is just nonsense but the conflicting reports of the weapons is what bothers me.

The only merit to 9/11 conspiracy stuff is the pentagon aspect. No video of a plane heading toward it or hitting it.

Why would there be someone randomly filming the pentagon the exact moment the plane hit? Why would they fake a pentagon attack when there were already attacks at the WTC that would justify a response?

The conflicting info about guns is bad early reporting, who knows who the federal sources were and what they actually knew when a news network is trying to get the fastest info and scoop to beat competitors they reach for any source they can even if it turns out to be wrong. CNN should have done a better job reporting.

Probably because the pentagon some how manage to lost $2.3 trillion

http://www.wanttoknow.info/050310pentagontrillionslost

 

The announcement happen a day before 9/11



 

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