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People say Vita is dead and doomed. However it manages to outsell Wii U in Europe. Then how doomed and dead is Wii U?



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WiiU isn't bad in Europe. They are selling what they are getting there. I have no idea why people can't understand that. Nintendo can't manufacture more than 400k per week. If they could, they would have capacity to manufacture more than 20million units per year (400k*52weeks) which would be a stupid level of over-capacity. Nintendo is allocating more units to North America and Japan right now, just like they did with Wii. The only number to look at with WiiU is the total sales, not where the shipments are going. WiiU is selling what they can make, and will continue to do so until all of the Nintendo Nuts have their system. After the first 5-10 million units we will see if there is mass-market appeal for SuperWii.



Sensei said:
People say Vita is dead and doomed. However it manages to outsell Wii U in Europe. Then how doomed and dead is Wii U?


Wii U is heavily supply-constrained in Europe, while Vita is available in mass quantities as systems have been sitting on shelves collecting dust for months now.  Pretty huge difference, there.



 

sperrico, is Pikmin even a system seller?



sperrico87 said:
Train wreck said:
sperrico87 said:
Mazty said:
No surprises here imo. If I was Nintendo I'd be concerned about Wii U performance at this rate.


Wii U is trending really well at the moment, no reason to worry unless sales fall off a cliff and Pikmin/ Lego City/ Wonderful 101 don't make a significant impact at retail.  Those three games need to do really well or Wii U will be flat-lining until Holiday 2013.

Seems many people are starting to make excuses for Wii U lackluster sales already.  What do those three games bring that the ones that are already released dont (COD, 2D mario, Assassin creed 3, you know, mega blockbusters). Couple that with games coming out from the competation (GTA5, GOW, GOW, a new castlevania,dead space, the list gones on)  Pikmin delayed, wont be showing up until at least Q2.  Its just a system people in europe do not want and released at the wrong time by Nintendo.

Ports on an unproven system is nothing to go by.  What sells Nintendo hardware is first-party software and 3rd-party exclusives, not ports. Pikmin and Lego City will do really well, and the big question mark is Wonderful 101 because while it's an exclusive and it's Platinum Games, it's a new IP and therefore it will heavily depend on the Metacritic score.  

There are different tiers of first party software for nintendo system, you only have a distinct few that are legimite system sellers, the rest fall in to medicore sellers such as those 3 games you listed.



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sperrico87 said:
Sensei said:
People say Vita is dead and doomed. However it manages to outsell Wii U in Europe. Then how doomed and dead is Wii U?

Wii U is heavily supply-constrained in Europe, while Vita is available in mass quantities as systems have been sitting on shelves collecting dust for months now.  Pretty huge difference, there.

For the 100th time, NO! Every online retailer has WiiU in stock and discounts it by 10-15%. And look Micromania even has ZombiU packs back in stock.

My local retailers in Paris have had WiiUs all the time and here in the south of France (I'm at my parents') there are WiiUs too (both black and white).



Sensei said:
People say Vita is dead and doomed. However it manages to outsell Wii U in Europe. Then how doomed and dead is Wii U?

Those crazy Europeans with their 'We are the world' narrow view. 



 

kowenicki said:
pezus said:
TheLastStarFighter said:
WiiU isn't bad in Europe. They are selling what they are getting there. I have no idea why people can't understand that. Nintendo can't manufacture more than 400k per week. If they could, they would have capacity to manufacture more than 20million units per year (400k*52weeks) which would be a stupid level of over-capacity. Nintendo is allocating more units to North America and Japan right now, just like they did with Wii. The only number to look at with WiiU is the total sales, not where the shipments are going. WiiU is selling what they can make, and will continue to do so until all of the Nintendo Nuts have their system. After the first 5-10 million units we will see if there is mass-market appeal for SuperWii.

So they didn't start manufacturing them way before launch? 

Doesnt alter the fact that the people saying its doomed because Euro sales are a bit low are being silly.  Even got one poster saying its more doomed than the Vita becasue it sells less in one region but obliterates the Vita in the other two.  But you pick on this post rather than the obvious nutty post.

 

I'm not sure why you'd even bother with an obvious nutty post, as in my opinion it's way more productive to speak to somebody who seems rational.



Can someone do a quick comparison of European WiiU to Vita price ratio vs US or Japan? The Supply constraint theory is intriguing but only if Wii U's price must also be relatively higher to justify the supposedly widely available stock.  What I mean is by shipping less of Wii U, Nintendo simply sets a higher price to manage the quantity demanded.  No offense to Europe, but I'm sure to Nintendo if they must sacrifice one region, it ain't gonna be motherland or the U.S.



melbye said:
I am ashamed of being European, Wii, DS and Vita beating WiiU


I'm a proud European and I'm ashamed, just like you.

We have really lost taste when it comes to consoles.

 

 

AlphaCielago said:
Pretty numbers for the 3DS and the Wii U is doing horribly in Europe. Well with those outrageous prices that should be expected. Overrall everything else except somethings seems pretty good. I can't wait when the global software sales shows up.


Wii U is a new console. And by "new" I mean 31 days old, today.

The price is not outrageous at all. Especially with that masterpiece of a controller.