Actually, I think you are a little off the mark here, it comes down to selections, I will literally eat humans(but only fully cooked) if that's the last option I have, we live in a great age where we actually have a consumer choice to eat what we want and thank goodness humans are my last survival options. Hell, I'm from Asia originally, I've also had shit like Snakes and Dogs(not off the street or pets you sickos). You say meat is not needed, but that's not true, because if you don't eat something often, your body becomes unaccustomed to it, and if there is ever a time where the only thing you can get your hands on is meat, you won't be able to eat it without getting sick, then you can't hunt or look for more and will die from hunger if you are by yourself, death by hunger is the last fucking thing I'd want, my ideal is either death in my sleep or death by cold(you actually feel warm before you die lol).

I used to work with a vegan at one of my old jobs, and he actually tried to get off of it after 7 years because he was turning into a stick figure over the years as well, and it made him sick for a long time(he had to do it in the course of a few months) before he got used to it again, the returning process really sucked, the moral of the story is that you have to do what you think is good for your body, or you'd get outted of the selection. Most vegans are not even animal rights activists, most of them get offended if you link them to those groups actually lol.

One corrction. Google search fruititarian. Some people do feel bad about eating plants

Well, it could serve as a last option food source if you are ever in a jam. Wouldn't be the first time a man would have to put down a pet to survive.

I've visited this farm/slaughterhouse a couple yeas ago. The video does show exactly what they do. There is no missing bits in between like some of those comments lead you to believe. This is mainly due to the strict conditions that have been put in place by the government.

Hell when a video leaked out of indonesia of live stock from Australia being mistreaded the government banned exports to indonesia of livestock for a few months. This did have a huge impact on our livestock farmers though.

Well, having a brain doesn't stop animals (even of the same race) from killing and eating each other, so why shouldn't we eat them?

I knew vegan sisters. One was deathly skinny and a little gross looking body. The other was getting very sick. She went to see the doctor and he said her body couldn't absorb the nutrients from what she was eating and that she needed to start eating meat again. She had a very hard time doing it and made herself sick until she finally gave in.

Anyway, not all vegans are sickly. I know a couple overweight ones.

There is no fallacy in what I said. You just refuse to accept this. How about you go play with a pack of wolves and see if they care about you.

Almost every vegetarian I know is so fat! That alone would put me off even if I hated meat (which I don't; I love it).

Well no, not all vegans are sickly, I've already stated in this thread that it's not for everybody, just like Asians have problems with dairy products(lactose intolerant) and can't produce the right enzyme to digest it withou long exposure to it, and if they stop for awhile, the enzyme goes away again, and some just can't produce it period. Not everybody can function without meat, so it always makes me feel weird when people say we don't need meat. Maybe some people don't need meat, but others might need it to function correctly. I've always found it strange that those people say humans have too much ego yet can't accept that some people need meat because they got too much ego themselves lol.

man, you are going into some weird ass direction with that one, humans can think, sometimes think too much like you are doing now, but that sure as hell didn't stop wars, murders, and massacres so apparently the ability to think has got nothing to do with it if humanity can't keep peace in itself. :P