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What will you do when it hits 50%?

Pop a bottle and celebrate 221 67.38%
 
Weep and wail 106 32.32%
 
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Dr.Grass on 25 December 2012
HesAPooka said:
the_dengle said:
Is this really cause for celebration? It's like celebrating the 360's 100% marketshare in 2005. Sony is like that person who stays at the party after everyone else has left, insisting that the party's not over yet, unable to take a hint that it's time to go, and reveling in finally being "the life of the party."


That makes about as much sense as saying that a films total gross doesn't matter, and only the first weekend is an indication of how strong it performs. 

Dude. Your. Statement. Seriously.

I don't know where to begin.



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thismeintiel on 25 December 2012
Dr.Grass said:
thismeintiel said:
Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 said:
slowmo said:
So people who are in this thread argue that the Wii U isn't next gen but then will not let its numbers count in a comparison because it blows their theory to pieces. A typical thread from Turkish I see.


Yeah pretty much. I agree 100% with this.

The only reason people say it isn't next gen is because of its graphical capabilities, or lack thereof.  However, all of those people saying that do know, in truth, that it is Nintendo's next gen offering.  Any comparisons made with its sales numbers, ESPECIALLY marketshare, will be made with the PS4 and NeXbox.

I'm reading through this thread mostly for - you know - fun.

But I just want to say that yours is probably one of a handful of really well put together posts (imo) :)

Gee, thanks.

And Merry Christmas, everyone.



 

FromDK on 25 December 2012

So (in best scenario) 50% of last gen marked... And in the meantime let nintendo do theire thing in next gen.. making it allmost imposiple to ever catch.. or mayby even imposiple to ever enter next gen... (they startet this gen way ahead.. and lost it all.. when "the monye men" look at that.. matby they shut ps4 down)

And remember.. when the casuals starts to realize nintendo had started next gen.. (and they get a nice tablet controller) the best "tv solution" ever. and Nintendo games in HD.. I bet anything.. that "the 50%" will be.. not that much..



Kasz216 on 25 December 2012
HesAPooka said:
the_dengle said:
Is this really cause for celebration? It's like celebrating the 360's 100% marketshare in 2005. Sony is like that person who stays at the party after everyone else has left, insisting that the party's not over yet, unable to take a hint that it's time to go, and reveling in finally being "the life of the party."


That makes about as much sense as saying that a films total gross doesn't matter, and only the first weekend is an indication of how strong it performs. 


Looking at "Total gross" would be looking at "total market share".

Really it's more like saying "picking a random weekend vs other movies well after the movies came out and the movies are in dollar theatres is meanginless."



Aura7541 on 25 December 2012
JayWood2010 said:
Aura7541 said:
platformmaster918 said:
JayWood2010 said:
platformmaster918 said:
JayWood2010 said:
Wii is already out of the race.

X360 will likely drop out very soon looking at the NeXbox in Q3/Q4 next year.

Isn't it a given that it'll hit 50%?

Something I have yet to understand is why people make everything into a contest. MSFT succeeded in what they wanted to do this generation. Nintendo succeeded as well so when the PS3 outsells the X360 it still hasn't diminished the fact that XBL, Software, X360, Wii were all successful and more so than the PS3.

yes but it is significant that they have a possibility of being the market leader despite launching at $600 which was 50% more than 360 and over twice as much as Wii, motion controls of Wii overshadowing its launch, no big exclusives for 2 years (system sellers), making a crazy hard to program for system resulting in inferior multiplats for 3 years, and being a year late compared to 360.  If they can sell over 100m despite all of that and win the last 4 years of this gen it just shows how powerful the PS name is.


What was your thoughts at the beginning of this generation?  Most people probably said, MSFT isn't a real competitor and Nintendo's gamecube sold mediocre.  X360 has sold 72 million compared to the XBOX's 25m.  Not only that but X360 dominates in software sells between the three and XBL has been a huge success.  Kinect has even been successful. Wii sold 97m compared to 25m gamecubes and made Motion controls successful.  PS3 has sold 70m compared to 145m PS2's.  That is a big decrease compared to it's competitors.  This means that Sony lost a huge marketshare this generation.  XBOX and Nintendo brands have grown.  Who has made the most profits this generation?  

I'm not saying Sony had the most profitable generation or the most successful (yet), but they also spotted their competitors everything imaginable.  For those of you who say the PS brand is dying, you need to look at what happened to other consoles who made even one of these mistakes.  They never sniffed 50m let alone 100m.  If they can be the best selling console this gen, or even second, they will be the first to ever do so at such a high price and being late and making a multitude of other moves that would spell death for a less powerful name.  This shows that next gen, if they price right ($400) and are on time (dev kit schedule suggests 2013) and use the architecture that is rumored their first parties and free online have them set to take back the lead.  This kind of success shows that the verdict is out on these systems and people are choosing PS now that the prices are reasonable for it (still higher than its competitors for the whole gen).  Yeah the others have been successful, but it was all dependent on Sony errors that they may not be spotted next gen.

This is key, right here. I feel like the 360 is a one hit wonder that mostly benefited from a year head start and Sony's huge stumble at the beginning of this gen. The NextBox is definitely not going to have that kind of success again mainly because Sony is much more prepared.

OT: The PS3 getting at least 50% marketshare next year is quite possible. Though, will I be ecstatic about this? Not really, but nor will I think it's meaningless.


Wow, lmao  You're not even worth the debate.  Have a Merry Christmas.

Says the person that just dismisses my comment without any constructive input. Merry Christmas.



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Aura7541 on 25 December 2012
Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 said:
Aura7541 said:
platformmaster918 said:
JayWood2010 said:
platformmaster918 said:
JayWood2010 said:
Wii is already out of the race.

X360 will likely drop out very soon looking at the NeXbox in Q3/Q4 next year.

Isn't it a given that it'll hit 50%?

Something I have yet to understand is why people make everything into a contest. MSFT succeeded in what they wanted to do this generation. Nintendo succeeded as well so when the PS3 outsells the X360 it still hasn't diminished the fact that XBL, Software, X360, Wii were all successful and more so than the PS3.

yes but it is significant that they have a possibility of being the market leader despite launching at $600 which was 50% more than 360 and over twice as much as Wii, motion controls of Wii overshadowing its launch, no big exclusives for 2 years (system sellers), making a crazy hard to program for system resulting in inferior multiplats for 3 years, and being a year late compared to 360.  If they can sell over 100m despite all of that and win the last 4 years of this gen it just shows how powerful the PS name is.


What was your thoughts at the beginning of this generation?  Most people probably said, MSFT isn't a real competitor and Nintendo's gamecube sold mediocre.  X360 has sold 72 million compared to the XBOX's 25m.  Not only that but X360 dominates in software sells between the three and XBL has been a huge success.  Kinect has even been successful. Wii sold 97m compared to 25m gamecubes and made Motion controls successful.  PS3 has sold 70m compared to 145m PS2's.  That is a big decrease compared to it's competitors.  This means that Sony lost a huge marketshare this generation.  XBOX and Nintendo brands have grown.  Who has made the most profits this generation?  

I'm not saying Sony had the most profitable generation or the most successful (yet), but they also spotted their competitors everything imaginable.  For those of you who say the PS brand is dying, you need to look at what happened to other consoles who made even one of these mistakes.  They never sniffed 50m let alone 100m.  If they can be the best selling console this gen, or even second, they will be the first to ever do so at such a high price and being late and making a multitude of other moves that would spell death for a less powerful name.  This shows that next gen, if they price right ($400) and are on time (dev kit schedule suggests 2013) and use the architecture that is rumored their first parties and free online have them set to take back the lead.  This kind of success shows that the verdict is out on these systems and people are choosing PS now that the prices are reasonable for it (still higher than its competitors for the whole gen).  Yeah the others have been successful, but it was all dependent on Sony errors that they may not be spotted next gen.

This is key, right here. I feel like the 360 is a one hit wonder that mostly benefited from a year head start and Sony's huge stumble at the beginning of this gen. The NextBox is definitely not going to have that kind of success again mainly because Sony is much more prepared.

OT: The PS3 getting at least 50% marketshare next year is quite possible. Though, will I be ecstatic about this? Not really, but nor will I think it's meaningless.


Pfft.. Sony more prepared? Just look at the vita lol. 

lol Just look at the rumors about the PS4. Though they are just rumors, all signs point to Sony going with a much less archaic architecture. Plus, to predict how Sony will do next gen by looking at a handheld's sales is a weak.



HesAPooka on 25 December 2012
Kasz216 said:
HesAPooka said:
the_dengle said:
Is this really cause for celebration? It's like celebrating the 360's 100% marketshare in 2005. Sony is like that person who stays at the party after everyone else has left, insisting that the party's not over yet, unable to take a hint that it's time to go, and reveling in finally being "the life of the party."


That makes about as much sense as saying that a films total gross doesn't matter, and only the first weekend is an indication of how strong it performs. 


Looking at "Total gross" would be looking at "total market share".

Really it's more like saying "picking a random weekend vs other movies well after the movies came out and the movies are in dollar theatres is meanginless."

 


I see where you're coming from but considering both PS3 and Xbox are still selling huge numbers each year they are far from the dollar theaters. Their sales still matter this year, and will matter next year, and probably the year after that. Even if one of the two does release another console. 



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Alby_da_Wolf on 25 December 2012
JimmyDanger said:
Christmas 2012. I read this thread.

If someone random, a complete stranger, for whatever reason - someone who knew little about vgchartz - were to ask me "what is this vgchartz forum thing? And what do they do there?"

I would tell them to read this thread. It's like a highlights reel/compilation episode of vgchartz. With spirited performances from its key characters.

Or maybe its Christmas. And I'm a little tired and emotional.

Merry Christmaaaaas!

Yep, this is a good thread for Xmas wishes, we can be sure to find a lot of VGC users here to read them.   

 

So:

MERRY XMAS!!!



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MARCUSDJACKSON on 25 December 2012

likely. with all the support PS3 will have next yr., i'd say so. and if not 50%, then 48%



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Jaywood2010 on 25 December 2012
Aura7541 said:
JayWood2010 said:
Aura7541 said:
platformmaster918 said:
JayWood2010 said:
platformmaster918 said:
JayWood2010 said:
Wii is already out of the race.

X360 will likely drop out very soon looking at the NeXbox in Q3/Q4 next year.

Isn't it a given that it'll hit 50%?

Something I have yet to understand is why people make everything into a contest. MSFT succeeded in what they wanted to do this generation. Nintendo succeeded as well so when the PS3 outsells the X360 it still hasn't diminished the fact that XBL, Software, X360, Wii were all successful and more so than the PS3.

yes but it is significant that they have a possibility of being the market leader despite launching at $600 which was 50% more than 360 and over twice as much as Wii, motion controls of Wii overshadowing its launch, no big exclusives for 2 years (system sellers), making a crazy hard to program for system resulting in inferior multiplats for 3 years, and being a year late compared to 360.  If they can sell over 100m despite all of that and win the last 4 years of this gen it just shows how powerful the PS name is.


What was your thoughts at the beginning of this generation?  Most people probably said, MSFT isn't a real competitor and Nintendo's gamecube sold mediocre.  X360 has sold 72 million compared to the XBOX's 25m.  Not only that but X360 dominates in software sells between the three and XBL has been a huge success.  Kinect has even been successful. Wii sold 97m compared to 25m gamecubes and made Motion controls successful.  PS3 has sold 70m compared to 145m PS2's.  That is a big decrease compared to it's competitors.  This means that Sony lost a huge marketshare this generation.  XBOX and Nintendo brands have grown.  Who has made the most profits this generation?  

I'm not saying Sony had the most profitable generation or the most successful (yet), but they also spotted their competitors everything imaginable.  For those of you who say the PS brand is dying, you need to look at what happened to other consoles who made even one of these mistakes.  They never sniffed 50m let alone 100m.  If they can be the best selling console this gen, or even second, they will be the first to ever do so at such a high price and being late and making a multitude of other moves that would spell death for a less powerful name.  This shows that next gen, if they price right ($400) and are on time (dev kit schedule suggests 2013) and use the architecture that is rumored their first parties and free online have them set to take back the lead.  This kind of success shows that the verdict is out on these systems and people are choosing PS now that the prices are reasonable for it (still higher than its competitors for the whole gen).  Yeah the others have been successful, but it was all dependent on Sony errors that they may not be spotted next gen.

This is key, right here. I feel like the 360 is a one hit wonder that mostly benefited from a year head start and Sony's huge stumble at the beginning of this gen. The NextBox is definitely not going to have that kind of success again mainly because Sony is much more prepared.

OT: The PS3 getting at least 50% marketshare next year is quite possible. Though, will I be ecstatic about this? Not really, but nor will I think it's meaningless.


Wow, lmao  You're not even worth the debate.  Have a Merry Christmas.

Says the person that just dismisses my comment without any constructive input. Merry Christmas.


No I haven't had the time or even wanted to debate about things like this lately.  If you want to get all angry then go right ahead but I expect facts not some opinion piece of garbage that has nothing to back it up.  So yes I don't even want to waste time on you guys.  But I'm glad you took the time to reply to me twice talking about the same thing.