BasilZero said:
fordy said:
What I'm saying is, by calling something hackable, it means it's open to being hacked at any time. This includes exploits that will come down the road. To say that it's unhackable is ridiculous.
You mentioned yourself in the previous post, on the VERY SAME post, that there is no "unhackable system", and then you say the newer PS3's are still unhackable for now. So what changes in the newer PS3s to make them open for exploit later? The difference is, there is still openings for exploit in the newer PS3s, just as there is in ALL SYSTEMS.
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@Bolded/Underlined/Italic - Yes I know that and I already agreed with you on that, not sure why you keep mentioning that again and again.
@Bolded - Yes every system is hackable in terms of a person finding a exploit if they look hard into the specs and design/code of the system - I know that but what I meant by it isnt hackable is that a regular user such as yourself or me cannot hack any of the newer PS3s because the programs are unavailable to the public, that is what I meant. That is unless you know there is a exploit out there that no one else knows or that you are a coder/developer for the custom firmware/jailbreak.
@Italic/Underlined - Again, you are stating the obvious which isnt needed here. I think we are just suffering from miscommunication as you can clearly see I never said there is a system that is impossible to hack (or should I say exploit). For a everyday casual user such as myself it is impossible for me to hack a PS3 especially mine since it has the latest firmware and is a slim.
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Hacking availability comes because of certain scales. The degree of hacking does play a role yes, but you're only referring to widely distributed hacks.
Be careful with what you say. As far as you know, I could have a newer PS3 with the BIOS chipped out and physically replaced with a custom BIOS. Is that NOT a hack?
A lot of people make the mistake by saying a console is hacked once a widely distributable exploit THAT IS CONVENIENT is available. There are still other means of circumvention because of the obvious flaws:
1. The user (ie the one supposedly locked out) owns and controls the hardware.
2. The PS3 follows the same fundamental of digital electronics as every other digital device before and after it. I've talked to many who believe the PS3 is some kind of magic box that somehow defies the laws of electromagnetism and such, but it's nothing more than illogical reasoning. The PS3, like any other "unhackable" device before it, uses the exact same digital electronic fundamentals used to build insecure systems.
