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SvennoJ on 07 December 2012
Devs have said multiple times that the difference of 720p to 1080p isn't significant enough when you just can slap some AA on 720p and can have more detailed graphics instead. The 720p-1080p jump is NOT in the same ballpark as the 480p-720p jump. The fact that the average PS360 gamer wouldn't even realize if they play a game in 720p with AA or 1080p native unless a site like Digital Foundry points it out to them should be a dead give away.

 

Not true for racing games, better view of the road makes all the difference, 60fps helps a lot too when you go 200mph.
For AC3, sure 720p 25fps is fine. 1080p would only reveal more pop-up, low res textures and low detail distant objects. The biggest cost of 720p to 1080p is not the pixels, you effectively also need 1.5x the draw distance to fill in the extra real estate. Adding extra AA to 720p is better, then you can reduce the draw distance and lod. So yes, 720p plus AA allows the most detailed objects.
But it's bullshit to say 1080p isn't significant, current-gen just can't do it justice.


What's up with that selective reading disorder you guys seem to suffer from around here? I never said it isn't significant, I said it isn't AS significant as the conventional SD-HD jump. The rest of your post seems to support my view except for the "for 1 genre out of x, where x is > 10, it isn't true".

It is for me. 480 to 720, 720 to 1080, same ballpark, just as significant.
Just not this gen. Last gen could do 720p (eg Soul caliber 2 on Xbox) but couldn't do it justice, and the avg gamer would not see the difference between the game running in 480p or 720p either.

But you're right I agree with this statement for current gen:
Devs have said multiple times that the difference of 720p to 1080p isn't significant enough when you just can slap some AA on 720p and can have more detailed graphics instead.



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dahuman on 08 December 2012

1080P makes a big difference IMO, but I'm also a PC gamer so any resolution jump is huge. A 720P image and a 1080P image are vastly different if the details are high enough, vastly!



BluGamer23 on 08 December 2012
pezus said:
BluGamer23 said:
pezus said:
Chandler said:
pezus said:

Like I said in another post, SD-HD isn't a magical barrier. HD isn't just "HD". A jump from 720p to 1080p would've been huge.


No.

Great response...

I got a better response 

"A jump from 720p to 1080p would've been huge."<- .. dafuq.. HAHAHA!...

Yes, do you disagree? Have you played natively 1080p games and compared with 720p games? 

Disagree .. but I play things on way higher resolution.. all it does is make things sharper...

SD -> HD .. is significant

but playing things on 1920x1200 makes things prettier but not huge .. so if thats not even huge.. what makes you think 720p -> 1080p is a huge improvement .. lol

 



 

 

richardhutnik on 08 December 2012
ethomaz said:
+ Same graphics quality

- Worst performance

Well, one hopes this gets fixed by the time the Microsoft (and/or) Sony offerings hit.  This is not good for Nintendo long-term.



Narishma on 08 December 2012
BluGamer23 said:
pezus said:
BluGamer23 said:
pezus said:
Chandler said:
pezus said:

Like I said in another post, SD-HD isn't a magical barrier. HD isn't just "HD". A jump from 720p to 1080p would've been huge.


No.

Great response...

I got a better response 

"A jump from 720p to 1080p would've been huge."<- .. dafuq.. HAHAHA!...

Yes, do you disagree? Have you played natively 1080p games and compared with 720p games? 

Disagree .. but I play things on way higher resolution.. all it does is make things sharper...

SD -> HD .. is significant

but playing things on 1920x1200 makes things prettier but not huge .. so if thats not even huge.. what makes you think 720p -> 1080p is a huge improvement .. lol

 

Hmm, that's exactly the same thing. Actually, going from 720p to 1080p is a bigger improvement than going from SD (480p or 640x480) to 720p. HD is just a marketing term that applies to any resolution that's higher than 480p. There's nothing magical about it.



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SvennoJ on 08 December 2012

Here's a little comparison of 480p -> 720p -> 1080p
Higher res also allows a bigger field of view for better immersion, next to better resolution to spot targets.
The reliance on outlined/glowing targets and/or distance markers above targets says enough that 720p is still too low.







It all depends on what size tv or distance to monitor you play at ofcourse, scaled down for browser viewing 480p is plenty.



Kai Master on 08 December 2012

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JTurner82 on 08 December 2012

Just because the first week sales of this port were kinda low doesn't mean that its longtail sales will be. And who knows, maybe the digital sales will make up for what physical ones can't.



BluGamer23 on 08 December 2012
SvennoJ said:

Here's a little comparison of 480p -> 720p -> 1080p
Higher res also allows a bigger field of view for better immersion, next to better resolution to spot targets.
The reliance on outlined/glowing targets and/or distance markers above targets says enough that 720p is still too low.







It all depends on what size tv or distance to monitor you play at ofcourse, scaled down for browser viewing 480p is plenty.

@Narishma @pezus .. well this is awkward for you guys we have a pic comparison.. lol.. WOOOW! LOOK AT THAT HUGE LEAP!! .. /s

ugh.. seriously ppl... really.. if the middle pic is 720p and the last pic is 1080p .. big fkn woop of a difference.. this just proves my point.. its not a huge leap!

"There is a HUGE difference between them. I don't "think" it's a huge difference, it IS a huge difference." <-- dafuq! u guys need to get over it..