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happydolphin on 10 December 2012
miz1q2w3e said:

Except, linkz didn't seem to doubt tabaha's claim. I agree ABC did try to make it seem like he had something.

I know what you mean about DT. I mean he successfully caught mafia's BP GF. How could they NOT want to get rid of him. They got rid of mantle for this very reason; that he was too helpful.

Now bear with me for the following: I got a (kinda strange) reason for suspecting DT is part of a mafia team. I was wondering why I wasn't killed. I mean I'm basically confirmed town, and no chance of getting lynched/mislynched (I know I'm jynxing myself with this but whatever)... My theory is that they thought I should stay because I seemed bent on lynching tabaha yasterDay and said that I totally trusted DT.

@bold. Well, same here. And add to that that Linkz said you were hit by retardation or something like that means that maybe they don't feel threatened by either you or me. But they felt threatened by ABC.

OR

Since ABC mentioned he was suspicious of Linkz, maybe they want us to mislynch Linkz.



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Yoshiya on 10 December 2012
happydolphin said:
Yoshiya said:

The "great" really was just a major typo. It was supposed to read better than my vibe on DT but I put it down completely wrong.

As to Hat, I'm not really sure. I've seen him play before and there is normally method to his madness, that and in the pony thread he seems like a nice guy so I wanted to trust him :G

I can give you a pass on the Trucks thing because in the end his buddying with tabs doesn't seem to have meant anything since as far as this game shows tabs actually was the cop (lol!).

But regarding hatz, that's kind of unforgivable. :) I'm kind of kidding, but seriously that's too fishy. hatz played really anti-town from a while back and you should have noticed that as town. I can't let you off the hook for this one.

Right now I'm seeing that your game with DT's was a distancing game and I believe Linkz has been gambling on that alot this game. It's just my suspicion.

Haha, thanks.

And yea, fair enough, I just didn't really know if I should trust DT's theory as to whether or not lynching Hat would lead to a safe situation or not. Since I've viewed him as scum the whole game and he was pushing so hard for Hat's lynch I was worried what they meant.

O.o That would be the mother of all distancing games lol.



miz1q2w3e on 10 December 2012

What did DT do during the night, anyway? I can't seem to find a clear post about it.



happydolphin on 10 December 2012
miz1q2w3e said:
What did DT do during the night, anyway? I can't seem to find a clear post about it.

He apparently watched you.



miz1q2w3e on 10 December 2012
happydolphin said:
miz1q2w3e said:
What did DT do during the night, anyway? I can't seem to find a clear post about it.

He apparently watched you.

Ah, thanks. Yeah, I saw that post, but it wasn't clear... So he also expected me to be killed? lol

Maybe linkz really did kill ABC to indirectly keep suspicion off himself? You say he's a vet, plus all that talk about game theory. FoS linkz.



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happydolphin on 10 December 2012
miz1q2w3e said:

Ah, thanks. Yeah, I saw that post, but it wasn't clear... So he also expected me to be killed? lol

Maybe linkz really did kill ABC to indirectly keep suspicion off himself? You say he's a vet, plus all that talk about game theory. FoS linkz.

Yes, like they killed off Mantle because he was too accurate.

But a more valid theory imho is that mafia used that against linkz, who could be town. It's more valid in this case because ABC was too blatant in his anti-linkz game.



miz1q2w3e on 10 December 2012

Linkzmax said:

Also, there is no evidence that a cop must exist. Flavor cop, Watcher, and/or Jack are a decent amount of investigative roles. And BD and/or strongman would counter the absolutely broken combo of Watcher+Doc.

You said this quite a while ago, but could I ask you what you think now that we know about Trucks = BP GF, and Danne = Miller.



Linkzmax on 10 December 2012
DarkThanatos said:
Right guys, I'm at Oxford Uni for the next few days for interviews. My access to the internet is going to be limited so don't expect my usual level of activity for the next few days. Not that anything is happening.

So basically yeh, while i can't defend myself, remember how i have lead to both Truck's and Hatz lynches over the last two days. Look how both of them were scum. Look at the effects those lynches have had.

I'm sure you'll make the right decision :P

hat would have been lynched Day 2 if the modkill didn't cut us short. But it's also a null tell since mafia would also want him gone so he couldn't shoot scum by chance.(As an aside. Guess what folks, he was killing FF next)

Your claim made it a choice between you and Trucks, with many believers on each side. It was mantle that pushed the balance over to lynching Trucks. That also got him killed, which does you no favors either. Why Watch Yoshi, who you called scum over and over again Day 3 instead of mantle?



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Linkzmax on 10 December 2012
DarkThanatos said:
Yoshiya said:
DarkThanatos said:

The hard evidence is a load of tosh is why. 

Primarily - 

1) I am not scum.

2) If i was scum, then i would have definately been bussed again for town, because it was so obvious that Tabaha was going to scan me. 

3) If i was town, then i would have definately been bussed for scum, because it was so obvious that Tabaha was going to scan me. 

4) Tabaha is almost certainly scum. 

1) That's not looking likely

2) O.o Why the hell would it be likely for the cop to scan the same person two Nights in a row? No offence to Tabaha but that's not great play at all

3) See above

4) Why? Either you or him is lying and I think you are far more likely than him atm


1) Why not? All that Tabaha's revelation has meant that again, One of Tabaha or myself is lying. Same conclusion we reached yesterday. And forgive me if I'm wrong (I'm not) But didn't you say more then once "let's lynch Tabaha today" 

2) Exactly that. It's Tabaha. He is incredibly easy to read. Firstly, he knows that i make him look scummy. Secondly, he said "he felt redirected", thirdly, it's the kind of move he does, I've played with him as scum last game. I know what he inclines towards.

3) See above. 

4) See 1. 

2) So knowing what he does as scum made it obvious what he'd do as cop? And since you and your BD scummate didn't swap you, giving a second innocent scan, you can't be scum?

3) This is actually quite different. With you as town, the mafia(who may not have played with him as scum) might not know him as well, and thus wouldn't swap you again. So given the result, the whole circular logic breaks.

There's a far better reason why you scanned guilty. If Yoshi went through with the plan, the BD would have been exposed.



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Linkzmax on 10 December 2012
DarkThanatos said:
radishhead said:
I don't believe what Hatmoza was saying about his win condition either, to be honest - but it's still a very good thing that we got rid of the SK imo.

Current situation as far as I can see it is that either Tabaha is lying, or DT is. I have reasons to doubt both, but I don't understand why Tabaha would (supposedly) scan the same person twice?


Ok Radish. 

We all know that either Tabaha or myself is lying. 

So let's consider who has contributed to town more, because as everyone knows, scum don't really care who is lynched, they don't push for players or make strong cases. 

Who; out of myself and Tabaha, has been a better help to town. 

WRONG!

And on top of that townies often don't push much or make strong cases.



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