Except that wasn't. You can consider it closed, but my point still stands. It had nothing to do with you being suspicious of zero.

I will just say this again in case it wasn't clear to someone - My case on DT was not based on his suspicions but more on the theory itself.

And it is strictly limited to the theory discussions. There are other pointers which others have pointed out, and some which I have, like his paranoia, and he didn't care to give a reason for voting me when the NT thing was going on - just a "By this time you should have known mantle is scum" statement. Or at least something along those lines.

DT (as explained), Danne, you and miz. I had mario on itbut he's now confirmed

btw they aren't that strong

On Danne:

Starts with http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4915814 . Notice that he says that he's going to sleep

the http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4916041 && http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4916062 felt a bit like trying to get something that could be used on 9TC

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4916112 feels like he's asking my role without actually asking it directly (i don't think it's that wrong to ask for my role)

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4916356 He's too tired and shoves the responsibility to someone else <- avoiding possible slips/etc?

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On Prof (you):

truth be told, i suspect you by default, but you not voting me nor 9TC caught my attention.

also http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4915749 . You say some people are suspecting me and you're right, but most of those suspections are weak

I also wrote down that at some point that you seemed to believe too much on 9TC but some posts after you say he shouldn't be doc'ed

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On Miz:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4920653 but i didn't have that quote from thsi day to glue it together.

goign to write what i have on paper:

?id=4915771 srsly?

follows what everyone says

?id=4915810 seriously? going back and forth

?id=4915825 too eager to defend him, too eager to get protection on 9TC

In other words, he finds it difficult to believe 9TC but votes me anyway (did he had any suspicions on me before?)

Then he says 9TC's story is a bit hard to swallow but he says that lynching is the best option out of it

In teh post after it he still has problems accepting 9TC's role but wants to keep him alive (when he previously said any of us would be fine for lynching)

I hope i didn't interpret anything wrong

and now i shall play LoL

Ok, so you've dropped the entire bit about me suspecting Zero, and are now back to my logic about the split. 

You are suspecting me because i theorised about the town/scum/third party split. My god the horror. 

I will explain it to you once again, because you have still not come to terms with it. 

There were 21 players. Usually 2/3 or more are town. That would mean that roughly 7 or less are not town. This can be assumed to be roughly correct purely for balancing purposes of a standard game. (1) 

6/7 is a huge size for a single scum team. As in theory it could mean scum win with 12/14 players still in the game, the size of a whole new game, I think it is pretty obscene to find a 6/7 sized scum team. Even Mafiascum agrees with me on this. (2) 

If we are to make a game with roughly the normal split of town-not town, then it is possible we have two scum teams. (3) 

To make them balance we can guess them to be possibly a 3-3 split. Alternatively, we may have a normal scum group and an SK. (4+1) (5+1) (4) 

Which part of those do you disagree with? When i made the original post I said feel free to disagree with me on the numbers if you think differently- but instead you just said i was scum. So I'm giving you a second chance. I even numbered them for ease of use. 

That was the information we had at the time available to us. I do not think it is an unreasonable leap of logic to make those conclusions, or scummy in anyway. 

Last game we saw supermario accuse pezus, and pezus turned right around and voted mario.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4914888

"Please elaborate on why you think mario and me are scum. what proof you have, etc.
I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one interested on it.
To be serious you're acting a lot like me when i was scum last round and that's not a good thing to do."

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4914940

"Hmm i think i shoud play the dumb card again and
Vote ninetailschris
at least until you explain it properly"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4914981
"now it makes a little more sense. And I'm pretty sure I know one rule for that role
Unvote
Still want to know your explanation on why you consider scum the be the people you said."

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4915816
"not finished to read the thread but i'm pretty sure ninetails is having fail interpretation. does your investigation role only say the role of your target?"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4915831

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4915839
"actually I need someone with more experience than me to help me
How far-fetched is the possibility of ninetails being on an anti town team (and ofc having the power to daykill)?"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4915852

Where exactly did you find yourself "panicked" and "doing it wrong".

Am I to understand that when you "panicked" you instantly went into cool as a cucumber mode? Now why would someone who was self-admittedly panicking, play it calm?

All those responses show a huge amount of restraint.

Now then, this is what I do find odd:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4916249
"why did you quote your pm?
but that line about the investigation... Looks a bit faked"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4916257
"no one said to quote it. we did say to tell your role and item "

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4916281

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4916304

You wanted ninetails modkilled, didn't you?

This is such scummy post, and I very prominent tell in the mafia wiki. That is when a day starts the very first comment is concern /confusion for a someone who dies.

And here's another.

Again, I bring my suspcion of miz and Yoshiya to the table.

Translation:

"I'm in the hot seat for a lynch, so let me start the day by saying I trust the three people who can potentially start a lynch train on me (especially prof)."

This doesn't hold together one bit. You said that he made his theory so he could defend zero.

So if you prior said he was suspicious of Zero, your play doesn't hold water and was fabricated, as such this makes you my prime suspect.

unvote Yoshiya

vote mantle