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JayWood2010 said:
sethnintendo said:

Graphics look nice in the op embedded video but that was pretty stupid how the turtle looks at 30 secs in the video.


Yes a ot of people has noticed that :P

Sorry, it just kind of stuck out.  The only time I expect turtles to walk on two feet is in



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happydolphin said:
o_O.Q said:

"I think we are both equally to blame for it."

lol is that so? the way i remember it i was constantly getting attacked and accused of certain things by you ( a little like right now)

which is pretty ironic considering what you're accusing me of

 

and as i said just now

"anyway if i come to a thread to discuss the topic at hand and i see someone derailing it, i'll call them out on it simple as that"

which is what i did in addition to many others

i'd prefer that if he isn't interesed in discussing ps3 graphics that he stays out of threads that have that as a topic instead of derailing them to suit his own views thats all

@1. Again, you're missing the point. I am not proud of my past, and I have worked to be a better poster. Question is, "have you?". I am not accusing you, I just want you to change. Yes, I want you to change, because I know you have more to offer.

@bold. I understand. But you do realize you're derailing this topic now, which is what you didn't want him to do in the first place, right?


" you do realize you're derailing this topic now"

yeah i absolutely agree, which is why this will be my last reply

i just felt that i needed to clarify certain things is all

( that i did not single him out or anything, many others acknowledged what he was doing and called him out on it )

and lets not forget that you are the one that initiated this conversation or maybe you would have preffered that i didn't reply 

 

finally, should you find any post that i make inappropriate that's what the report button is for 



o_O.Q said:
happydolphin said:
o_O.Q said:

"I think we are both equally to blame for it."

lol is that so? the way i remember it i was constantly getting attacked and accused of certain things by you ( a little like right now)

which is pretty ironic considering what you're accusing me of

 

and as i said just now

"anyway if i come to a thread to discuss the topic at hand and i see someone derailing it, i'll call them out on it simple as that"

which is what i did in addition to many others

i'd prefer that if he isn't interesed in discussing ps3 graphics that he stays out of threads that have that as a topic instead of derailing them to suit his own views thats all

@1. Again, you're missing the point. I am not proud of my past, and I have worked to be a better poster. Question is, "have you?". I am not accusing you, I just want you to change. Yes, I want you to change, because I know you have more to offer.

@bold. I understand. But you do realize you're derailing this topic now, which is what you didn't want him to do in the first place, right?


" you do realize you're derailing this topic now"

yeah i absolutely agree, which is why this will be my last reply

i just felt that i needed to clarify certain things is all

( that i did not single him out or anything, many others acknowledged what he was doing and called him out on it )

and lets not forget that you are the one that initiated this conversation or maybe you would have preffered that i didn't reply 

 

finally, should you find any post that i make inappropriate that's what the report button is for 


Alright please tell me how I dreailed th thread yesterday.  I'm just curious but if you go back and look at it I was talking about beyond's graphics the entire time up until I got ganged up on.  I said he should put gameplay while talking about graphics.  Then i pointed out it is using Motion Capture and everybody freaked.  Actually I may have said CGI first, I dont remember, but it is Motion Capture.  So before saying I was uniterested or trolling go back and look through the thread because I was on topic up until the end.




       

o_O.Q said:

finally, should you find any post that i make inappropriate that's what the report button is for 

I just want to say one thing about this, and this is where many in the community fall short. (it also ends my contribution on the topic)

It's not about following the rules, but about having a community that fosters discussion. If his topic is derailed because of something that happened in another thread, it's an issue for the community. Whether it breaks the rules or not, it's detrimental. There are some things mods can do, some they cannot. That's what peer pressure is for, and that's what I'm trying to do with you, because I believe in you and in the ppl here.



happydolphin said:
o_O.Q said:

finally, should you find any post that i make inappropriate that's what the report button is for 

I just want to say one thing about this, and this is where many in the community fall short. (it also ends my contribution on the topic)

It's not about following the rules, but about having a community that fosters discussion. If his topic is derailed because of something that happened in another thread, it's an issue for the community. Whether it breaks the rules or not, it's detrimental. There are some things mods can do, some they cannot. That's what peer pressure is for, and that's what I'm trying to do with you, because I believe in you and in the ppl here.

That you took the steps to become what you concider a better poster is fine. But you can't ask other people to do the same. You did so when you judged it was the right thing for you to do, for your own reasons.  

What you're doing isn't any more on topic than what you accuse him of. And yeah, my current post isn't either. =P




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Hynad said:

That you took the steps to become what you concider a better poster is fine. But you can't ask other people to do the same. You did so when you judged it was the right thing for you to do, for your own reasons.  

What you're doing isn't any more on topic than what you accuse him of. And yeah, my current post isn't either. =P

Problem is, I wasn't accusing him of derailing :) I was saying he was calling someone out for doing something he was doing himself eg derailing (I was calling out his double-standards ;) Tricky, but it holds together :3



Mummelmann said:

maverick40; no amazing exclusives on the PC? All the best RPG's in history are on the PC, Warcraft I, II and III, Civilization series, Starcraft, X-com series, everything ever published by Lucasarts before 2000, King's Bounty games, Heroes of Might & Magic series, Mount & Blade, Team Fortress 1 and 2, Thief 1 and 2, Quake games, Diablo series, all the MMO's that matter, Company of Heroes, System Shock 1 and 2, Age of Empires, Total War series, Call of Duty 1 and 2 (by far the best ones). And this is just scratching the surface, I could write a post too long for the site's bandwidth to load with fantastic PC exclusives.

The truth is, for backlog and library, not all consoles in the world come close to the PC. For strategy and RPG's it is extremely superior and it gets the technically best versions of most multiplats, better visuals, sound, controls and heaps of customization and mods as well as more content, cheaper content and games, better support and even better and more gameplay (twice as many fighting in Battlefield 3 maps is a perfect example).

Alphacris; As a gaming platform, the PC reigns supreme for me and a lot of others. I use my PS3 for Gran Turismo, fighting games and things like Uncharted and to watch movies on sometimes. The PC fulfills all my needs and then some.

The PC itself cost me about 9500NOK, the PS3 was 7000NOK when it launched here, those 2500NOK extra will be saved on cheaper games, purchasing extra controllers, various cables and other stuff within a couple of years. PC gaming is not expensive, its not difficult and nothing comes close to the library.
I waited over four years before upgrading to a better maching, by that time, its almost time to buy a new console and the TV is aging as well (if you have a Plasma or LCD, which everyone does), plus more expensive games, all for a technically inferior experience.

I'm fine with my choices, to be honest, and it has nothing to do with "lol you're jealous/angry at consoles for getting great games and you're poor etc", its as simple as this; console gaming bores me ever since the 7th generation started. I have enough cash to spend on games and we own both a PS3 and a 360 but I have no interest in them any longer.

By the way, expecting a 20 year lifespan or even the possibility of something like that occurring is slightly insane in my opinion. The market and development is moving faster and faster, the 8th generation will likely be shorter than the 7th.

Anyway, anyone who says that PC gamers are missing out and that consoles are getting all the great exclusives haven't spent nearly enough time on a PC to properly make up their minds.

Well, if I only had a PC I would have missed almost all of my favourite games since most Japanese Developers did not make games for the PC:

I would have missed Sony and Nintendo first party franchises, most Final Fantasy games, Kingdom Hearts, Dragon Quest, some Resident Evil and Metal Gear Solid... You may have gotten most of the best US/EU Games for the PC, but you would have missed the best from Japan. Btw, I played Warcraft II and CIV 2, X-Com on the PS1... so they are not PC exclusive.

Why is expecting a 20 year lifespan insane? Production of the PS2 has just ended now in Nov 2012, so the PS2 already had a lifespan of 12 years. And that was without hard drive and digital downloads. Why should people stop buying the PS3 when it reaches the sweet price spot and you can get a quality console and most games at a very cheap price without having to search through ebay or flea markets for the games when they are no longer sold at retailers? Ok, the "Hardcore  gamer" will probably always have the latest console at home. But why shouldn't the normal gamer start with a PS3 and a cheap backlog online. The graphics have already reached a very good level and progress will not matter that much in the future.



pezus said:
Alphachris said:

Well, if I only had a PC I would have missed almost all of my favourite games since most Japanese Developers did not make games for the PC:

I would have missed Sony and Nintendo first party franchises, most Final Fantasy games, Kingdom Hearts, Dragon Quest, some Resident Evil and Metal Gear Solid... You may have gotten most of the best US/EU Games for the PC, but you would have missed the best from Japan. Btw, I played Warcraft II and CIV 2, X-Com on the PS1... so they are not PC exclusive.

Why is expecting a 20 year lifespan insane? Production of the PS2 has just ended now in Nov 2012, so the PS2 already had a lifespan of 12 years. And that was without hard drive and digital downloads. Why should people stop buying the PS3 when it reaches the sweet price spot and you can get a quality console and most games at a very cheap price without having to search through ebay or flea markets for the games when they are no longer sold at retailers? Ok, the "Hardcore  gamer" will probably always have the latest console at home. But why shouldn't the normal gamer start with a PS3 and a cheap backlog online. The graphics have already reached a very good level and progress will not matter that much in the future.

"If I only had a Wii I would have missed almost all of my favourite games like Sony first party franchises, most Final Fantasy games, Kingdom Hearts, some Resident Evil and Metal Gear Solid"

"If I only had a PC I would have missed Nintendo first party franchises, Dragon Quest, Kingdom Hearts, some Resident Evil and Metal Gear Solid". 

See where I'm going with this? You can't expect one machine to get ALL the games


Ahhhh. The joy of playing on every platforms!  Sure, I don't like as many games on PC as on any other systems. But when the PC gets good games, they shine like nowhere else.  But it is true that the platform could get a better helping of good third person (that's the key word here) shooters, action RPGs, action adventure and platformer games.




pezus said:
Alphachris said:

Well, if I only had a PC I would have missed almost all of my favourite games since most Japanese Developers did not make games for the PC:

I would have missed Sony and Nintendo first party franchises, most Final Fantasy games, Kingdom Hearts, Dragon Quest, some Resident Evil and Metal Gear Solid... You may have gotten most of the best US/EU Games for the PC, but you would have missed the best from Japan. Btw, I played Warcraft II and CIV 2, X-Com on the PS1... so they are not PC exclusive.

Why is expecting a 20 year lifespan insane? Production of the PS2 has just ended now in Nov 2012, so the PS2 already had a lifespan of 12 years. And that was without hard drive and digital downloads. Why should people stop buying the PS3 when it reaches the sweet price spot and you can get a quality console and most games at a very cheap price without having to search through ebay or flea markets for the games when they are no longer sold at retailers? Ok, the "Hardcore  gamer" will probably always have the latest console at home. But why shouldn't the normal gamer start with a PS3 and a cheap backlog online. The graphics have already reached a very good level and progress will not matter that much in the future.

"If I only had a Wii I would have missed almost all of my favourite games like Sony first party franchises, most Final Fantasy games, Kingdom Hearts, some Resident Evil and Metal Gear Solid"

"If I only had a PC I would have missed Nintendo first party franchises, Dragon Quest, Kingdom Hearts, some Resident Evil and Metal Gear Solid". 

See where I'm going with this? You can't expect one machine to get ALL the games

Yeah I agree with this completely 100%  

This is why the console wars annoy me the most because all three consoles has great exclusives which is why I play all three.  However if you dont like the type of games for that console then dont get it but no need in argueing that a different console is better because they may like those type of games better. 

P.S. Possibly the best comment I've yet see you make :)




       

JayWood2010 said:
pezus said:
Alphachris said:

Well, if I only had a PC I would have missed almost all of my favourite games since most Japanese Developers did not make games for the PC:

I would have missed Sony and Nintendo first party franchises, most Final Fantasy games, Kingdom Hearts, Dragon Quest, some Resident Evil and Metal Gear Solid... You may have gotten most of the best US/EU Games for the PC, but you would have missed the best from Japan. Btw, I played Warcraft II and CIV 2, X-Com on the PS1... so they are not PC exclusive.

Why is expecting a 20 year lifespan insane? Production of the PS2 has just ended now in Nov 2012, so the PS2 already had a lifespan of 12 years. And that was without hard drive and digital downloads. Why should people stop buying the PS3 when it reaches the sweet price spot and you can get a quality console and most games at a very cheap price without having to search through ebay or flea markets for the games when they are no longer sold at retailers? Ok, the "Hardcore  gamer" will probably always have the latest console at home. But why shouldn't the normal gamer start with a PS3 and a cheap backlog online. The graphics have already reached a very good level and progress will not matter that much in the future.

"If I only had a Wii I would have missed almost all of my favourite games like Sony first party franchises, most Final Fantasy games, Kingdom Hearts, some Resident Evil and Metal Gear Solid"

"If I only had a PC I would have missed Nintendo first party franchises, Dragon Quest, Kingdom Hearts, some Resident Evil and Metal Gear Solid". 

See where I'm going with this? You can't expect one machine to get ALL the games

Yeah I agree with this completely 100%  

This is why the console wars annoy me the most because all three consoles has great exclusives which is why I play all three.  However if you dont like the type of games for that console then dont get it but no need in argueing that a different console is better because they may like those type of games better. 

P.S. Possibly the best comment I've yet see you make :)


So... If we take your word to mean anything... You shouldn't get annoyed by people posting console graphics appreciation threads...

Because this thread OP never even mentioned any other platform other than the PS3. It didn't compare the visuals to the PC, 360 or Wii U.

So, again, you over-reacted over nothing.