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Forums - Gaming - 3DS outsells Vita by over 46:1 in Japan, 40:1 in different tracker

 

First reaction to Vita sales?

Yikes! 87 20.91%
 
Terrible! 28 6.73%
 
Awful! 23 5.53%
 
Dead! 113 27.16%
 
Poor Vita... 79 18.99%
 
Nice sales! 72 17.31%
 
Other 14 3.37%
 
Total:416
naruball said:
Kynes said:
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Install base. I'm sure most people who want a new monster hunter game already have or will have soon a 3DS, so it's a much cheaper investment for them to buy that game on the 3DS than on the Vita when/if the Vita has it's game. We are not talking of niche games, we are talking of MH, a huge franchise in Japan.

We have tons of examples of install base not making a difference in terms of sales. And in regard to Monster hunter, just a reminder: the psp sold more than 300.000 units in a week with the release of a monster hunter game (after the release of several monster hunter psp games). It is plausible that the vita would have a similar boost.


If I were a Vita fan, I wouldn't put my hopes on a game that has not been anounced, and will be soon on it's rival console. I'll say it again, it doesn't make much business sense to develop high budget games for a console that sells so little every week.



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amp316 said:
hunter_alien said:
Yeah... quality=/=quantity. Something of fine taste will never sell as well as a mass product

Toyota sells more cars then Porsche


But a Porsche and a Toyota have a much higher price difference than a Vita and a 3DS.  Rich people buy those super expensive Porsches so they do make a lot of money.

The vita is still too expensive compared to the 3ds.



Kynes said:
naruball said:
Kynes said:
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Install base. I'm sure most people who want a new monster hunter game already have or will have soon a 3DS, so it's a much cheaper investment for them to buy that game on the 3DS than on the Vita when/if the Vita has it's game. We are not talking of niche games, we are talking of MH, a huge franchise in Japan.

We have tons of examples of install base not making a difference in terms of sales. And in regard to Monster hunter, just a reminder: the psp sold more than 300.000 units in a week with the release of a monster hunter game (after the release of several monster hunter psp games). It is plausible that the vita would have a similar boost.


If I were a Vita fan, I wouldn't put my hopes on a game that has not been anounced, and will be soon on it's rival console. I'll say it again, it doesn't make much business sense to develop high budget games for a console that sells so little every week.


I'm not putting any hopes on a mh game. Just noting that I consider your argument flawed. I guess we're gonna have to agree to disagree.



kowenicki said:
naruball said:
Yes, this definitely deserved a thread.


You dont think this is significant.  Its the most significant things going on in the gaming world right now.

The Vita is currently irrelevant in its home market (yes less than 2% is irrelevant), a market where handhelds rule.


Which is something we've know for months. The gap just keeps getting bigger. Nothing really changed. like you said, at this point vita sales are almost irrelevant in Japan. The only interesting data worth talking about is the 3ds hardware boost and the success of AC.



Last time that something like that happened was when PS2 launched... sold ~75 times the Dreamcast.

But this was no hardware launch... just a game + bundle.



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pezus said:
kowenicki said:
naruball said:
Yes, this definitely deserved a thread.


You dont think this is significant.  Its the most significant things going on in the gaming world right now.

The Vita is currently irrelevant in its home market (yes less than 2% is irrelevant), a market where handhelds rule.

Let's not take this out of context now. Less than 2% in a single week where one of the biggest 3DS games ever in Japan released and nothing for Vita.


You are right, Vita irrelevancy is now the norm in Japan.



I don't think Vita is dead, especially in Japan, but this teaches a lesson better than any other to sony.

All this is their fault. Just look at vita launch sales... huge potential there. Now it's in the limbo, why? Simply no important third party support for now and foreseeable future.



kowenicki said:
naruball said:
kowenicki said:
naruball said:
Yes, this definitely deserved a thread.


You dont think this is significant.  Its the most significant things going on in the gaming world right now.

The Vita is currently irrelevant in its home market (yes less than 2% is irrelevant), a market where handhelds rule.


Which is something we've know for months. The gap just keeps getting bigger. Nothing really changed. like you said, at this point vita sales are almost irrelevant in Japan. The only interesting data worth talking about is the 3ds hardware boost and the success of AC.

You may have know it for months, I have sure know it for months.  But others have been saying "no biggie, just wait" up until very very recently.  Some still are.


I remember someone saying that by that they meant, "we know. This is the billionth time this is brought up. Wait till the holidays (ac/cod) to declare it dead (so that we don't have to read the same sentence every week)". Pretty sure that everyone on VGC is aware of vita's condition.



sales2099 said:
Somehow I doubt ACL and COD are gonna help this holiday.......

In Japan? Of course not.



Conegamer said:
naruball said:
Kynes said:
The problem Sony has is that with those sales, no mentally sane developer would invest on a Vita AAA exclusive game. This time they don't have a twin console that could make it viable in the long term.

Yeah, not really. A couple of months ago a Japanese game sold best on Vita (beat psp and 3DS). Persona 4 Golden did amazing as well. I have no doubt that a monster hunter game on the vita would sell extremely well, even better than on the 3ds.

The issue is; if you don't have this title in development, or if it is in the early stages of development, then why risk releasing the title on the PSV as opposed to the 3DS when there's such a large sales gap?

They'll always be anomolies, yes. But you'd have to be pretty gutsy to take the plunge on the Vita and the Vita alone with no backup plan. And if they do create a backup plan in the 3DS, then you've sort of defeated the whole concept in the first place.

I don't think any Japanese devloper would make a game exclusively for Vita anymore. Sony would really have to pay them to make the game, fund it themselves and maybe publish it too.