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DarkThanatos on 11 November 2012
radishhead said:
theprof00 said:
HAMMER TIME!

you missed a perfect opportunity to hammer vote me there- I wouldn't even have been mad because it would have been so suitable


Radish- you like hammering. Why havent you hammered yourself yet? Clearly you have an important role you are relunctant to kill yourself. 

You've already said that the one you claimed "isn't that important for town to win". So either your roleclaim is fake, or you are scum and you dont want to deprive your scummates.



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Stefl1504 on 11 November 2012
DarkThanatos said:
Stefl1504 said:

No, if you are scum, your case is good because people don't care, if you are town, your case is bad.

Also, you sound pretty sure that I have to be scum so far. The weird thing is that not more people are jumping on me so far, because they just love how town takes itself apart, or there aren't much more players from the scumteam to jump on me. I don't know it yet. (Well, there are a lot more perspectives, and even a lot more possible realities)

Well, I am not hesitant to Vote for Radish to keep my own arse save here. Also, like I already said, I tend to trust linkz on radish.


Right- so you say you are unhesistant to vote Radish- then don't. Why would you do this? 

I think it's so that you appear to be with town, but don't want to vote for him because either

A) He is your scummate and you thought there was still a chance for him not to be lynched. 

B) You don't want to be under suspicion when he flips. This would only matter if he flipped town- which would make sense if he was town because as scum you would know he wasn't. Or because you don't want suspicion on you because you have something to hide- you're scum/third party. A player playing for town would vote him if they were "not hesistant" because they thought he was scum. 

Another point. "To save your own arse?" 

There is no lynchtrain on you. Nobody was really pushing you except Mantle. Why are you so concerned about your vote? 

You are now my number two scumspect. 


No, to save my own arse in this case means to save my own arse, means, that by any possibility that a lynch train is really forming on me I wouldn't be waiting to vote for radish in order to hammer/move him nearer to lynch in order to protect myself. If I really would be in a situation like you claim I would just vote for him and get it over. I didn't know the exact votals though, and that was one reason for not voting. Please don't say I am unhesitant to vote for radish just like that, please reread the sentence once again:

Well, I am not hesitant to Vote for Radish to keep my own arse save here. Also, like I already said, I tend to trust linkz on radish.

To rephrase it: Would it be necessary to vote for radish in order to save my own arse, I would vote for him.

If I would not be hesitant in general, I would've just voted for him, thus really hammering.



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Final-Fan on 11 November 2012
mantlepiecek said:
pezus said:
mantlepiecek said:
pezus said:
mantlepiecek said:

I think we should lynch either stefl or pezus then. I am highly leaning towards stefl; and I am sure we are bound to get information in some way or form.
-Hatmoza posted flavour that told you if your lynched target was town/scum in the last game. Something similar may happen this game.
-The case on him isn't as strong but it is good enough for day 1 in my eyes.

Wait, the case isn't as strong but you'd still prefer his lynch over radish?

That's not what I said. I said it is not as strong as I would like. And yes, I guess I prefer his lynch over radish because I can't see why we would be lynching radish.

Well, I don't see that there lol. Guess you forgot to add that.

Yeah, well, I did not put radish either. It didn't feel necessary.

I will second what pezus said (easily misinterpreted) and go further to say that you are completely wrong -- it was TOTALLY necessary.  "as I would like" completely changes the meaning from "not as strong".  As a result, the unspecific "him" along with "not as strong" would make me think you meant, "the case against pezus isn't as strong as the one against Stefl, but still good enough that I'd suport it if Stefl isn't getting lynched." 



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Stefl1504 on 11 November 2012
DarkThanatos said:
radishhead said:
theprof00 said:
HAMMER TIME!

you missed a perfect opportunity to hammer vote me there- I wouldn't even have been mad because it would have been so suitable


Radish- you like hammering. Why havent you hammered yourself yet? Clearly you have an important role you are relunctant to kill yourself. 

You've already said that the one you claimed "isn't that important for town to win". So either your roleclaim is fake, or you are scum and you dont want to deprive your scummates.

YOU ARE SCUM!

UNVOTE

Vote: DarkT



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Final-Fan on 11 November 2012
DarkThanatos said:
radishhead said:
theprof00 said:
HAMMER TIME!

you missed a perfect opportunity to hammer vote me there- I wouldn't even have been mad because it would have been so suitable

Radish- you like hammering. Why havent you hammered yourself yet? Clearly you have an important role you are relunctant to kill yourself. 

You've already said that the one you claimed "isn't that important for town to win". So either your roleclaim is fake, or you are scum and you dont want to deprive your scummates.

I assume the first part is a joke.  As for the second part, perhaps he simply doesn't think much of Watchers. 

Sigh. 
Unvote radish. 



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Stefl1504 on 11 November 2012
DarkThanatos said:

Similarly tabaha- you didn't vote him either but said you would. Is this so that you can get away with going along with town? 

You at least gave a reason of you don't have enough of a tell. That is something- even though I would argue the amount of evidence against him is large. 

Could you point out the post where I said I was going to vote tabaha?



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mantlepiecek on 11 November 2012
DarkThanatos said:
theprof00 said:
Mantle didn't make anyone do anything and that would be the most ridiculous strategy I've ever seen. Force someone to claim by pretending they are at L-0.
WHAT DOES MAFIA CARE SO LONG AS THEY'RE DEAD?


Mafia cares a lot. By knowing town's roles they can decide who is amore important lynch candidate. Why take the chance of hitting a vanilla when you know  a strong power town player? 

You are an experienced player Prof. You would know this. 

Why are you trying to remove suspicion on Mantle? 

Maybe both you and Mantle are scummates. Or maybe it is just you. 

This game is power role heavy so the possibility of a vanilla town is less than 5%.



mantlepiecek on 11 November 2012
DarkThanatos said:
spurgeonryan said:
So mantle says radish is lynched. Then pushes for him to claim. Which ends up outing two players. Then goes for a no lynch which people have already been against. All orchestrated in last 15 minutes before supposed twilight.

vote: mantle


I agree with you here. Scummy move Mantle- it would not have been much effort for you to check, yet you didn't in the hope of a claim. Make it easier for you to chose your target tonight perhaps? 

I did look back but didn't say it to make radish roleclaim. I believed it would be for his best if he is town and for his worst if he is scum.

Why do you care if you think he is scum who has overwhelming evidence against him though?



mantlepiecek on 11 November 2012
Final-Fan said:
mantlepiecek said:
pezus said:
mantlepiecek said:
pezus said:
mantlepiecek said:

I think we should lynch either stefl or pezus then. I am highly leaning towards stefl; and I am sure we are bound to get information in some way or form.
-Hatmoza posted flavour that told you if your lynched target was town/scum in the last game. Something similar may happen this game.
-The case on him isn't as strong but it is good enough for day 1 in my eyes.

Wait, the case isn't as strong but you'd still prefer his lynch over radish?

That's not what I said. I said it is not as strong as I would like. And yes, I guess I prefer his lynch over radish because I can't see why we would be lynching radish.

Well, I don't see that there lol. Guess you forgot to add that.

Yeah, well, I did not put radish either. It didn't feel necessary.

I will second what pezus said (easily misinterpreted) and go further to say that you are completely wrong -- it was TOTALLY necessary.  "as I would like" completely changes the meaning from "not as strong".  As a result, the unspecific "him" along with "not as strong" would make me think you meant, "the case against pezus isn't as strong as the one against Stefl, but still good enough that I'd suport it if Stefl isn't getting lynched." 

Well, I can see how it can be misinterpreted, but what I actually meant was it wasn't as strong as I would like, but it was good enough for day 1.



radishhead on 11 November 2012
DarkThanatos said:
radishhead said:
theprof00 said:
HAMMER TIME!

you missed a perfect opportunity to hammer vote me there- I wouldn't even have been mad because it would have been so suitable


Radish- you like hammering. Why havent you hammered yourself yet? Clearly you have an important role you are relunctant to kill yourself. 

You've already said that the one you claimed "isn't that important for town to win". So either your roleclaim is fake, or you are scum and you dont want to deprive your scummates.

Wth is this? You're becoming a parody of yourself 



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