theprof00 said:
OK anyway, back to my thing with DT and my reads:
1 Here are my suspects:
Linkz, Tabaha, Mario
Here are my somewhat trusted (also somewhat distrusted)
Spurge, stefl, Pezus
Pezus has the same suspects I do, yet Linkz says Pezus is definitely scum.
My conondrum was that
-if Linkz was right, and Pezus was scum, then it is very unlikely that mafia Pezus had named other mafia as his suspects, which would mean that all my suspects were town.
-But if Pezus was right, meaning I was also right, then Linkz could be simply mafia trying to discredit Pezus.
However, I don't think I am that far off on my suspects.
I think Mario is a great candidate for reasons such as laying low, avoiding real arguments, and jumpiness. Additionally, he is not one of the people I trust, and by process of elimination, him being untrusted and calm makes for a combination that results in me thinking scum.
I think Linkz is a great candidate because he's not as active, has been lying purposely about important roles, and undermining and arguing with me on really superficial points, ignoring the meat of the topic. For instance when we were just tlaking about SK being inno-scan, he contends ONLY ONE of the examples, not mentioning the other, and then later when I say then scan often he says "most THIRD PARTIES do not scan town", again, sideswiping the real issue. This is my example of typical slime linkz, which has become his usual scum-play.
I think tabaha is a great candidate because he's being pretty reserved, and has done a few very scummy things, like lynching Radish very quickly for a really asanine reason, among some other bad decisions. I feel like he's also been missing recently. Again, another combo of not trusted and flying too low under the radar.
Now my somewhat trusteds are pezus, stefl, and spurge.
But let's face it, any one of them could be scum or town. It's a very tough call.
For pezus, we have his weird fake-carelessness on day 1, which has been pointed out; (Like answering 'yes' to the question 'are you scum' and the strange 'voting me is a mislynch' early day 1) and he has had a pretty wide range of suspects but doesn't really actively pursue many of them other than what has been accepted as 'town really trying hard' with the simple "hey X what do you think of Y" derpshit. However, his current list of suspects makes me trust him more, and he's not really avoiding discussion, but does seem to be avoiding directly involving himself in arguments between others.
For stefl, there's really a variety of problems and most of them could chalk up to paranoia. I would say he had a bad suspect list if his suspect list would stay still for a second for me to judge it. He talks about things which he doesn't really understand. His "flip out" I would describe as copying my argument with Linkz, possibly for bluffing reasons, and his role seems like something that could be done to give mafia a poison protection, or a little extra power without overpowering them. From a meta standpoint, he could be scum or town, and his actions don't really scream town to me either. However, nobody has counter-claimed him yet, and he did exactly what his role should've done, and he wasn't targeted or blocked, so it would seem that the role and alignment combo are legit, but yeah, still iffy.
Spurge is a loudmouth. I can't get a proper read on him except that he seems a bit more reserved this game, as in, he's not trying to press his issues, he's just commentating. Usually as town, he'll try to push lynches the way he wants but I haven't been seeing that.
So who does Mario like for scum? pezus, stefl, tab, linkz
Who does Linkz like for scum? Prof, pezus, tabaha, spurge, stefl?
Who does tabaha like for scum? Stefl, (thinks linkz is an ok lynch but not the best), spurge (from day 1 end)
Pezus? Linkz, tab, Mario
stefl? Mario and Trucks I think (changes somewhat often)
Spurge? Linkz tabaha mario stefl I think (changes often)
Who do all my suspects suspect
Linkz 3 votes
stefl 4 votes
tabaha 4 votes
pezus 2 votes
Mario 3 votes
spurge 2 votes
If there are 3 non scum votes here, then there is at the very least 1 vote from scum on stefl and tabaha.
The people that hate stefl are spurge,mario,linkz,and tabaha
The people that hate tabaha are spurge, linkz, tabaha, and pezus
Linkz is suspected by one of my main 3
Mario is suspected by none of my main 3
Stefl is suspected by 3 of my suspects.
Mario suspects two of my main three, Linkz suspects one of my main three, and tabby suspects none of my main three.
Stefl also happens to be a doctor (unchallenged by doc)who is suspected by my three main (and a non-main). Cross off stefl.
So we're left with spurge, tabaha, linkz, mario, pezus.
Pezus wants to lynch all three of my main, that makes me think he's not mafia; accordingly two of my main also want him dead.
Mario wants to lynch two of the other 2 main, that also makes me think he's not mafia either, though strange that neither of the other two suspect him at all. Then again, Mario is the type to turn on his teammates. I should know. I've been on his team before.
Spurge wants to lynch all three of my main. Is he just copying my list? I can't really trust his lists lol. But still, if he's willing to vote with my vote, then I'll take it.
Niether tabby nor linkz are really down to vote for the other. Tabby is like 4th or 5th in linkz descending scum order, and linkz is an 'ok but not really' in tabby's list. But both also pushed for Radish, so I would think Radish is not scum, but someone else is.
Anyway, to conclude, I would say tabby and linkz are mafia, and either pezus or mario or spurge is the SK, but since one of them is my main, I'd say Mario has the best chance of being the poisoner, along with pezus. Only pezus is suspected by my mains, and Mario is unsuspected. Spurge could be a crazy wild card SK who kills them all though.
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