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TruckOSaurus on 17 November 2012

Everybody agrees with my plan? No lynching anyone until spurge and DT make their statements.



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theprof00 on 17 November 2012

No we must lynch tabaha NOW you fools!!!
Rofl
Of course



Stefl1504 on 17 November 2012
TruckOSaurus said:
Everybody agrees with my plan? No lynching anyone until spurge and DT make their statements.

I agree with it, hence why I not voted prof yet. Though I doubt that even if both claim not to be the doc I could believe prof.

It's mostly the sheer ridiculousness of his blocker claim and all the fails entangled into it, for one, that a town prof would truely believe to catch any scum with this claim seems ridiculous, then, the lying (yes, lynch all liars also is an important aspect to it), further I am asuming that if he just said he didn't target trucks, and maybe who the person was he targeted would've been sufficiant to get a tabaha lynch instead he thought up something useless that should ultimatively lead to his demise. I also do not believe his day 2 behaviour is suiting for being a doc, and then there is the decision to target DT off all the people he could've targeted. Also, I do not believe that as the doc he would demand from me (or allow me) to target zero night 2, ever, specially with how much distrust he seemed to have into me(I know he changed his mind on who I should target later on).

Anyway, apart from this, it can't hurt to wait. Trucks, if you don't mind, I'd like to hear your thoughts on profs interaction with me on my night 1 results of being targeted by doc and poison doc, if it doesn't put you in complete overload.



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supermario128 on 17 November 2012

So...

Zero: Cop
Prof: Doctor
Trucks: Poison Doctor
Mario: Tracker
Tabaha: Tracker
Stefl: Absorber
Pezus: Coroner
Spurge: ???
Thanatos: ???

This would mean that either Spurge or Thanatos have to be the roleblocker, unless Pezus is the role blocker, or if Tabaha lied to get me lynched and is the role blocker.

Prof, why would you claim role blocker when everyone agreed it was a scum role? Even if they wanted to counter you, they couldn't and wouldn't...

If someone else counter claims Prof he is lying. Also, someone else could have been doctor before and simply died.

If Tabaha was tracker then he tracked prof to trucks, thus he is poisoner.

Prof says he never targeted trucks, which makes Tabaha a liar. Combine that with his fake role claim and we have scum right in front of us.

My vote will stay as is.

Now, I have to go to work and I'm going to the Wii U midnight launch after that, so I probably won't be on until much later tonight.




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DarkThanatos on 17 November 2012

Shit a brick people! How much has happened in the last 18 hours?! I've been rushing about at work all day cos of stock take, but I'm going to read the entire thread first before I make any comments- I dont want to jump on things which are later outdated.



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DarkThanatos on 17 November 2012

Right, I have about a page and half to go. I got to go eat Tea. Be back in 30 minutes. In the meantime 

Unvote Mario.

I dont feel confident voting anyone until I've read the full thing. Everything has hit the fan, so nothing is worth voting for right  now til im fully informed



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DarkThanatos on 17 November 2012

Right. I'll start off by roleclaiming. My name is Mechanic
My role: accountant. Passive ability. At the end of each day, I get given a number- which is how many non-town were on the lynchtrain each day. From this I can try and figure out who is scum from a numerical point of view. Hence why accountant I guess.
Night one I got the number 2. I thought that was a bit low- which is why i went for my Prof/Stefl theory as that would make 4 non-town.
Night two I got the number 2 as well. I'll get round to analysing this in a sec.

If Spurge is Doc, then Prof is poisoner, Tabaha is telling the truth and Mario is Roleblocker.



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DarkThanatos on 17 November 2012

If Spurge is not doc- then Tabaha is scum, Prof is telling the truth and is town.



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DarkThanatos on 17 November 2012
pezus said:
DT, give me your thoughts about tabaha at this point. Spurge do the same.


Right now- I have explained them. 

Either Tabaha is tracker or scum. This depends on if Spurge is doc or not. 



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DarkThanatos on 17 November 2012
TruckOSaurus said:

So here it is: I don't think prof is Mafia, I think he's the poisoner.

It all started when I had to leave yesterday right after tabaha claimed to have tracked prof to my house.

tabaha said:
bad notprof is bad
Tracked FF first and failed hard. Tracked prof last night and got trucks

Naturally, I didn't trust tabaha all that much at the point but something from Day Two came back to me. I stopped harassing tabaha about his votes on radish and then Stefl in the early Day Two because he gave me the impression of being clueless instead of opportunistic scum. So I spent a good part of my evening toying around with the idea that prof could be the poisoner.

This idea was reinforced by the fact that he called my poisoning a weird choice. I know he gave the answer that if he was poisoner he'd kill potential Mafia suspects and I couldn't argue against last night.

theprof00 said:
You dont need to buy it, you're scum counterclaiming another player with a bullshit story.
I was.never at trucks place.

Everyone, just fyi, mario is by no means cleared by this.
As mafia I've counterclaimed other mafia to make their case stronger.

I agree that Mario is still scum. This is prof positioning is lynch for tomorrow.

theprof00 said:
Hey why not?
I'm a roleblocker, and you didnt see anything last night liar.
theprof00 said:
Like i said, i blocked tabby last night so i know hes not a tracler.

prof claims roleblocker. At this point, I'm thinking it's all too conveninent that he blocked tabaha but not impossible.

theprof00 said:
Also im requesting doc protection formally.
People can argue all they want, especially zero, but imo they can't block my talking during the day, and tomorrow i see a group of spurge, pezus, stefl, dt, mario and zero and frankly i don't trust you guys to be rational, especially after what transpired today.
So doc, feel free to decide between me and zero, but if i were you id protect prof.
:D

And now it all clicks in my head. Why would the poisoner kill mantle and me when we were far from likely to be scum? My first instinct was to think because we are not easily mislynched and we are known to think things through but that left a big hole in a poisoner's strategy: if you leave scum alive in favor of killing strong townies you leave yourself open to Mafia kills... unless... you gain the confidence of the town and are able to request doc protection for yourself thus keeping the Mafia at bay until either the town lynches them or you poison them.

theprof00 said:
Also, call me crazy, but id like to know ff's role pezus.
I know tabby is scum so it doesnt matter to me what his role is.

What do people think about that?

Here's poisoner prof getting another piece in place. "Hey, tabaha is soooooo scum that maybe we should not even bother scanning him once he's dead." prof doesn't want us to look into tabaha's death because he fears he's town and pezus seeing that would not fit with his plan.

Stefl1504 said:
theprof00 said:
Only thing is i expect tabaha to flip blocker, which we would figure out anyway when nobody town is blocked.
The only question then, if we really want to know tabaha, is who do i block?
Mario or pezus?
Should i just pick one with a coin toss?
On one hand we wont get the coroner flip, and on the other we wont get mario to track your poison doccing.
Of course blocking a kill could be confirmation in itself, but what if that person is just simply prevented by the doc?
Maybe i should take no action?

You claimed to have blocked tabaha, but then, how should he be able to block zero, this is a direct contradiction to your earlier blocker claim.

Congratulations on this Stefl, I don't regret fighting to keep you alive on Day Two!

Vote: prof
Stefl1504 said:
theprof00 said:
Only thing is i expect tabaha to flip blocker, which we would figure out anyway when nobody town is blocked.
The only question then, if we really want to know tabaha, is who do i block?
Mario or pezus?
Should i just pick one with a coin toss?
On one hand we wont get the coroner flip, and on the other we wont get mario to track your poison doccing.
Of course blocking a kill could be confirmation in itself, but what if that person is just simply prevented by the doc?
Maybe i should take no action?

You claimed to have blocked tabaha, but then, how should he be able to block zero, this is a direct contradiction to your earlier blocker claim.

Perfect catch you two. Stefl I apologise for all the scum accusations earlier. You are town imo. 

As it stands I highly doubt that Prof is doc. This claim is bullshit clearly, then his doc claim has a glaring fault in. 

Prof claims to have targetted me last night. I call massive bullshit. He has been saying I'm possibly scum all game. Why would he target me? WHY WOULDN'T HE TARGET HIMSELF? He is quite willing to protect himself tonight, but last night he wasn't - he instead protected someone he thought was highly suspicious. 

 



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