If the PS4 is confirmed to be so weak then I'm that guy in the gif.
I think Sony's financial position had a far greater impact, and Nintendo's success wit the Wii only really made them confident that they could take this kind of approach.
The Gaming division can't afford to lose hundreds of millions (or billions) of dollars for the first several years of a console release with the state of Sony on the whole; and for "Playstation" to survive, Sony's gaming division has to remain profitable throughout the generational transition.
| VGKing said: 1. The rumored PS4 specs are actually much more powerful than the Wii U. We don't know specifics but I'd say at best 3x the power. 2. If Sony really plans to have the PS4 run games at 1080p, 60FPS in 3D, then something is missing from these rumors. The APU alone won't achieve that. It needs a dedicated graphics card as well. 3. Rumors mention a "very affordable console" that "isn't a slouch". I think this person is paying a little too much attention to the "affordable" part. By affordable I doubt they mean $300. They just mean "no more $599". |
Then what you consider "affordable"?, imo if Sony goes beyond $400 (maybe a max of $450) then it will be the PS3 situation all over again. Yes it's still less than $600 but the market have changed a lot in this past gen, most people (not core gamers) aren't willing to spent that much in a gaming console. Sure Sony will make fans happy but the investors will be pissed.
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It's not the Wii U. It is the Wii - Wii U Nintendo Strategy.
As I see, Sony has 2 ways:
- Release a console in the range of Wii U (but more powerful) with less costs and profit almost since the first months.
- Or release a very powerful console in the range of the nextbox with a higher costs and maybe profit some years later.
In their current financial situation, I'll go with the first one.
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| pokoko said: Everyone is expecting Microsoft to go beast in terms of power, but I'm not so sure, not if Kinect 2.0 is integrated or offered in bundles at launch. That would make the 720 really expensive, and as Xbox is the weakest brand of the three, I think it's important for Microsoft to have a really solid launch year. |
In Japan yes, but not in North America. Microsoft has made a really good job in their home market and their brand is now very well known. And in Europe the things are a lot better than last gen, specially in the UK.
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| Torillian said: While I think they're going for less of a power jump and therefore cheaper at launch than this gen, I don't think that has much to do with the Wii U's plan, I would hope that's what they'd do regardless because of how poorly the PS3 started out. You guys don't really think they had a 600 dollar sold at a loss monster all ready to go and saw the Wii U and thought "oh wait, shit, what were we thinking?" do you? I mean sure some people like to think Sony are idiots who only copy, but that just seems like an unreasonable assumption of stupidity. |
Exactly. What lesson could Wii U possibly teach them that years of bleeding money hasn't already.
*Looks at Vita*
On the other hand...
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Wonder what pezus and oniyide have to say about this...
Anyways, as I've been saying for two months now, I always predicted that the PS4 wouldn't be the graphical leap that so many were expecting. Some Sony fans think I'm crazy and proceeded the knock the Wii U for not being the leap over the PS360 that the want and said the PS4 would be just that. I wonder if they change their tune once the PS4 isn't the leap that they expect and suddenly become fine with the PS4 being "underpowered" (the word they used to describe the Wii U) after knocking the Wii U so much for not being a huge leap. Not saying the OP is true. But I don't doubt that it may end up being true.
We shall see!
EDIT: I don't think the WiiU had anything to do with this decision, assuming it's true. It's moreso Sony learning its lesson that a powerful Godbox that's expensive to develop for and selling at a loss will mean the end of them.
JEMC said:
In Japan yes, but not in North America. Microsoft has made a really good job in their home market and their brand is now very well known. And in Europe the things are a lot better than last gen, specially in the UK. |
When I say it without modifiers, I mean globally. No real reason to break it up. The 360 launched first yet has the lowest installed base and the lowest sales rate, which tells me it was the weaker brand this generation. It will probably lose market share in 2012 to Sony, even with the release of Halo 4 and a new CoD game. That's why I think Microsoft needs a great launch if they want to increase market share next gen. If they falter out the gates it could hurt them quite a bit outside the US and perhaps even in NA somewhat, especially given that they won't be the first next gen console this time around.
Article based on rumors, gaming "journalist" at its best.
they might have to cut the power to release sooner, because leaving Nintendo on the market for 2 years before you launch is a bad idea
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