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First thing he needs to do now is deal with the natural disaster happening now. The amount of damages is surreal.



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Joke thread?

Okay, *when* Obama is reelected he should impale himself with a samurai sword having dishonored our nation with his atrocious handling of it leaving Joe Biden as President until he's assassinated by Paul Ryan with a bow staff, upon which time Jim Boehner will assume the position as our nation collapses into the Dark Ages and the illuminati rise to power.



spurgeonryan said:

I want him to balance the budget and reduce spending immediately. Then handle the medical insurance disaster.

What about you World?


If he made no progress on those issues in his first year what makes you think he will care to his next four years? He isn't being reelected on his ability to fix those things so why expect him to? Its like trying and failing at something, and than doing the exact same thing you did but expect a different result. If you want progress made on those items (clearly things Obama did not care about) than dont vote him back in as he does not care to fix those items. Vote for someone else.



While he can't do it by himself, pushing Congress to pass the Jobs bill he proposed last year would be nice. He's already pulled us out of Iraq and is pulling us out of Afganistan, so there's not much else he can do that I'd want him to do without a Congress he can work with.


BlkPaladin said:

Get the bond rating back up. Which means he cannot continue the spending spree he and the legislative branch has been on these past 4 years. The lower the bond rating the higher the interest rate on mortgages and credit cards. That one drop from the summer is going to cost the average American thousands of dollars per year.


No, it means that Republicans can't hold the debt ceiling hostage again next year. It wasn't spending that caused our lower bond rating. We've been big spenders and deficit makers since the 1980s, after all, and much of the current deficit was caused by policies of the previous administration (two unpaid wars, two rounds of unpaid taxes, increased spending and reduced taxes caused by the recession, higher interest caused by higher debt, and of course the debt left over from the Reagan, Bush, and Clinton) that Obama has been blamed for for the last few years.

Cutting spending and raising taxes is the last thing you do in a weak economy. Our primary goal for the moment needs to be reduced taxes and increased spending. Government can use a lot of services and create a lot of jobs, which is exactly what you want to do in a weak jobs market. It's what we typically have done during recessions in the past. And if you want to keep our bond rating from going lower, DON'T take the debt ceiling hostage.

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tonymarraffa said:
Romney is anti-gay. If he wins this country will lose 40 years of progress.

You do realize every president including Obama up until about half a year ago was anti-gay... correct?


Hell, i'd argue Obama is still anti-gay since he now holds the same gay marriage position as Dick Cheney.   Which is... "It's a state issue." 


A cowardly statement that's complete bullshit when you consider the fact that their are tons of federal benefits tied to marriage... and well... every other fucking thing doing with marriage has been a federal level event.


 


Unless Obama is willing to say Loving vs Virginia was ruled incorrectly and interracial marriage should be a state issue to.


Dick Cheney isn't anti-gay, though. He actually endorsed gay marriage back in 2009. Obama isn't anti-gay either. He campaigned in 2008 on repealing Don't Ask, Don't Tell. He went out of his way to make sure it he got to repeal it in 2010, taking unneeded political risk when he didn't really need to due to the Supreme Court decision. He signed a hate crimes bill that defined anti-gay acts as hate crimes. He expanded the Family and Medical Leave Act to cover gay parents who adopt children, and later extended health coverage to those children.

Obama was never anti-gay. He was just, like every politician, measured in his support of gay rights in order to ensure he doesn't alienate a large swath of the voting block which, until a few years ago, WAS pretty anti-gay. He hasn't been a perfect candidate on this issue, but he certainly isn't "anti-gay", and he is certainly no more cowardly then ANY other politician who's ever successfully run for a presidential nomination. If anything he's shown more balls then most, given that Republicans have been able to use it as a political cudgal to energize their base, a cudgial he didn't need to give them. There is little, if any electoral upside to this position for him.

 



Anybody who keeps seeing the destruction from Sandy should probably say continued support for the reconstruction of Jersey Shore and NY State and others facing destruction.

That said this is not really a far fetched statement considering all the recent Ohio polls that at least according to NYC's Nate Silver 50% likely to create the winner of the election. The odds of this state winning it in his model are so high the greater favorable polls of late have pushed up his odds of winning up by about 5% to ab0ut a 76% chance a long with the almost assured chance the Senate will be blue.



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nuckles87 said:

 

 



Kasz216 said:







tonymarraffa said:
Romney is anti-gay. If he wins this country will lose 40 years of progress.

You do realize every president including Obama up until about half a year ago was anti-gay... correct?


Hell, i'd argue Obama is still anti-gay since he now holds the same gay marriage position as Dick Cheney.   Which is... "It's a state issue." 


A cowardly statement that's complete bullshit when you consider the fact that their are tons of federal benefits tied to marriage... and well... every other fucking thing doing with marriage has been a federal level event.


 


Unless Obama is willing to say Loving vs Virginia was ruled incorrectly and interracial marriage should be a state issue to.


Dick Cheney isn't anti-gay, though. He actually endorsed gay marriage back in 2009. Obama isn't anti-gay either. He campaigned in 2008 on repealing Don't Ask, Don't Tell. He went out of his way to make sure it he got to repeal it in 2010, taking unneeded political risk when he didn't really need to due to the Supreme Court decision. He signed a hate crimes bill that defined anti-gay acts as hate crimes. He expanded the Family and Medical Leave Act to cover gay parents who adopt children, and later extended health coverage to those children.

Obama was never anti-gay. He was just, like every politician, measured in his support of gay rights in order to ensure he doesn't alienate a large swath of the voting block which, until a few years ago, WAS pretty anti-gay. He hasn't been a perfect candidate on this issue, but he certainly isn't "anti-gay", and he is certainly no more cowardly then ANY other politician who's ever successfully run for a presidential nomination. If anything he's shown more balls then most, given that Republicans have been able to use it as a political cudgal to energize their base, a cudgial he didn't need to give them. There is little, if any electoral upside to this position for him.

 

He repealed don't as don't tell... which voided the court decision which set back gay rights because it removed the precedents the case set... as was specifically mentioned by the panel who voided the court case.

The reason he did this wasn't to take uneeded political risk, it was to prevent the credit from DADT's removal to be given to the group who filed the lawsuit.  AKA the Log Cabin Republicans.

Now that he's done so, the court decision has been voided, and legislation like DADT can be enacted whenever the political climates align.

Unlike if he would of let the court decision handle it... then DADT would of been defeated forever... and it would of set legal precedent to allow a claim for transgendered people who aren't allowed in the military... since the ruling stated that the military had to show extreme proof for any exclusionary policy... and having surgery on your gentials i don't really see effecting combat.

 

Though no... it's only a cowardly decision for those who believe gay marriage is a right.   For Obama it's an easy and cowardly way to say "Hey i support you guys, but not enough to piss anybody off, because while the polls have finally swung so that more people want gay marriage then don't... it's still close."

I remember back in the day when progressive politcians stood up and advocated for equal rights back when it was unpopular... not the hedging they do today.

Hell, Theodore Roosevelt was outspoken about Women's suffarage!



dsgrue3 said:
Joke thread?

Okay, *when* Obama is reelected he should impale himself with a samurai sword having dishonored our nation with his atrocious handling of it leaving Joe Biden as President until he's assassinated by Paul Ryan with a bow staff, upon which time Jim Boehner will assume the position as our nation collapses into the Dark Ages and the illuminati rise to power.


Assassinated with a bow staff?



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Kasz216 said:
kitler53 said:
thanks to sandy he probably won't win. just heard on NPR he's loosing ground as romney continues to campaign and obama can't.


I couldn't disagree more.

I mean... what could be better politically for Obama in the middle of an arguement about the correct size of govenrment... then a giant disaster that forces a number of states to rely on government?

Allowing him to look presidential and confident, while Mitt Romney either has to disapear until the end of the storm, or continue to do campaign stuff and look fakey and have people challenging him for campaigning during a national emergency.

 

The only real issue is early voting.  Which may or may not matter because I don't think the polls take that into account so much... and if anything might help.


Since there is a weird cascade effect in American politics, where if you win the east states you have a better chance of taking west states.

you can disagree all you want.  it's not really my opinion, i'm just stating what NPR reported this morning which is that obama's recent poll numbers over the last few days show him dropping.   maybe they were wrong about it being sandy's fault but i'm just saying what i heard.