We know it shipped over 1m because Sony said last quarter that PS3 was down YoY. PS3 did 1.8m last year's Q1, so if we substract a max 1.79m from the 2.8m PS2+PS3 did last quarter, the result is at least 1.01m PS2s sold.

Oh god.... I do not remember doing it but I turned off the alarm lol.

Updates comming.

Sony also said handhelds sales are down because of Psp which turned out to be bs. Ps2 shipping 1m? When it hardly sell anywhere that much. Even in developing world people now days would just pay litle more and get 360 or ps3. Ps2 sales has been declining every quarter, why should they suddenly start shipping double that amount? When everyother console is on decline yoy.

PS3 selling 1.0 million last quarter is down yoy too.

Q1 2011 - 1.4m
Q2 2011 - 1.2m

So I guess Sony shipped this year 1.0m in Q1 2012 and 0.9m in Q2 2012.

07 - 08 - 09 - 10 - 11

3.4 - 3.2 - 2.5 - 1.9 - 1.5 - 1.2

Those are the ps2 sales for the same quarter the past 6 years.

Same years for ps3

_ - 1.3 - 2.4 - 3.2 - 3.5 - 3.7

So last year quarter 2, it shipped 3.7m ps3s

I'd say, given the rates of movement, ps2 shipped .96, and ps3 shipped 2.54? Seems pretty off if you ask me. Though last year q2 was Sony's pricecut, but could it drop 33% like that? The current drops we've been seeing for ps3 are 20% down YoY according to the marketshare thread. 20% would mean 3.7 down to 3m.

Damn you sony and your bundled numbers.

Why would Sony lie about that?

You'd think they'd try to hide bad PS3 sales, not bad PS2 sales...

Plus, the fact that PSP sales are down is a reason for handhelds to be down. Of course, there's also the fact that Vita's selling shit, but it's a reason.

Sony said both PS3 and PS2 sales were down individually. We have no reason not to believe this, they have no reason to say this if it isn't true. It'd be in Sony's interest to tell us if PS3 were about to surpass X360, right?

EDIT: I want to say that I still think it's a possibility that PS2 sold only 0.5m for example, but a slim one. I'd bet 0.7 or more. It's impossible to know though.

What is for sure is that las Q sold over 1m, and that can't be argued against, that's the only point I'm trying to make.

Not sure of logic used here. If ps3 was down YOY last Q, how did you know that it is down YOY in Q2?

He was talking about Q1 only.

I'm not sure you understood what I said.

PS2 sold over 1m last quarter because of Sony's statement. That's all I'm saying. So it selling 0.5m this quarter is unlikely imo.

Regardless, and answering your question, PS3 is down Q2 too because last year was 3.7m on its own and this year it's 3.5m with PS2 included.

They revised the PSV/PSP forecast to 10 million now (it was 12 million before).

The PS3/PS2 is the same (16 million).