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vita crossbuy, as detailed at tgs, will work primarily with sony first party.

sony, currently, is the only one caoable of giving out ftee games it seems.

But what an amazing offering if standardized! 

Here's how they fix it.

1: provide an in box coupon fory half off the accompanying gamr.

2: bundling. offer a ps3/vita game bundle (linited availability at first) to include bith games for 80$

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Seems like the cross buy will be different for each game. Read an article stating...

"Taking the stage at its pre-TGS press event, Sony announced a new Hot Shots Golf game as one of the program's first adopters -- citing a price reduction, rather then a free game, for users who pick up either the PS3 / Vita version of the title. In contrast, Sony stated at Gamescom that buyers of PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale and Ratchet & Clank: Full Frontal Assault would receive a second copy of the game for free upon purchase, indicating that cross-buy discounts may vary from title to title."

http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/19/ps-vita-and-ps3-cross-buy-more-discounts-less-freebies/



Honestly, as good as an idea this is, I don't think it'll work. If there are any gamers out there like me, they are not going to spend MORE money so they can play it on both systems. I'm planning on buying a Vita very soon and one of the first games I'm buying is Rayman Origins which is also on PS3. Had there been a $20 option so that I can play it on the PS3, I wouldn't even consider buying that bundle. Even if it was $10 more. Why? I'm still getting the same exact game but paying more, no thanks. Seeing as how many gamers out there buy used games from Gamestop (which is $5 dollars less than new no less), I assume that I'm not the only one against this.



Be cause i know it will eventually come up, they would not actually be losing money and could even charge slightly less considering two purchases.
Consider the industry marketplace:
A game is sold to gamestop for ten dollars or so less than retail. Of the profit, another 10-15 goes to the platform manufacturer; aka sony ms ninty.
Shipping and packaging is another 3 or so.
So in the grand scheme of things the revenue by a dev for one ps3 game and one vita game is:
60-(10-15 retailer)-(10-15 console owner)-(3-5 associated costs)
And
40or50 - 10to15 - 10to15- 3-5
For a total negative loss of between 46-70 of between 100-110 revenue.
Conversely, a bundle would have loss of between 23-35 of 75-80 revenue.
In both cases they will make just about the same amount give or take a couple bucks.



They should have made the Vita as powerful as the ps3 so it could natively run ps3 game.. Only then crossbuy would work



 

Face the future.. Gamecenter ID: nikkom_nl (oh no he didn't!!) 

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You know Sony wouldn't think of this if Vita had 3ds sales. Its a incentive for PS3 gamers to buy a Vita.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

It's an incentive to buy the expensive Vita memory cards



I don't see this happening.

And personally, I think Vita needs future games to call its own - like Soul Sacrifice, Tear Away, etc.
Some of those games should have been Vita exclusives - like Sly.

Sony agrees it's limited too

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/363968/ps3-and-vita-cross-buy-potential-is-limited-sony-admits/



@rol
Question
Devs wont see it that way? Whats to stop their marketing departments from saying "we cold seel both games in a limited run avoid paying double the fees and spread our brand name to multiple consoles meanwhile making the game sales appear larger than normal."? If a consumer is unlikely to sell two copies of the same game to the same person, why not increase that chance by bundling?

@vic
You dont even consider those games to be games. Dont pretend like that was an impartial response.

@kowen
Really the person it impacts the most is sony. Other companies doing bundling would actually be negligible in terms of loss, offset by cost reduction and brand strenghtening. But sony is already going one step better by making the extra game free, so this idea really isnt for sony.



theprof00 said:
@rol
Question
Devs wont see it that way? Whats to stop their marketing departments from saying "we cold seel both games in a limited run avoid paying double the fees and spread our brand name to multiple consoles meanwhile making the game sales appear larger than normal."? If a consumer is unlikely to sell two copies of the same game to the same person, why not increase that chance by bundling?

@vic
You dont even consider those games to be games. Dont pretend like that was an impartial response.

@kowen
Really the person it impacts the most is sony. Other companies doing bundling would actually be negligible in terms of loss, offset by cost reduction and brand strenghtening. But sony is already going one step better by making the extra game free, so this idea really isnt for sony.

 

Stop loving hating me so much.

I consider them not only games, but along gravity rush the best Sony made on Vita - pure exclusive games with Vita on mind and great talent behind. Just doubt their selling power, that's all. Don't take it personally.