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Just don't watch those videos while high, you might start to believe them.
My friends always annoy me with stuff about Illuminati, and yes they are pot heads.



I was walking down along the street and I heard this voice saying, "Good evening, Mr. Dowd." Well, I turned around and here was this big six-foot rabbit leaning up against a lamp-post. Well, I thought nothing of that because when you've lived in a town as long as I've lived in this one, you get used to the fact that everybody knows your name.

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I'll concede that it's all laid out in a very convenient way, but I don't buy into those videos, and if you keep watching them they will mess with your head. I can't remember which video it was, but my friend watched this one video and he started sleeping with his window closed at night because he was convinced aliens would come during the night or something.



I was walking down along the street and I heard this voice saying, "Good evening, Mr. Dowd." Well, I turned around and here was this big six-foot rabbit leaning up against a lamp-post. Well, I thought nothing of that because when you've lived in a town as long as I've lived in this one, you get used to the fact that everybody knows your name.

I enjoy watching those illuminati videos. Not because I believe them but because of the entertainment factor they provide. It's like watching a fun horror film. Some of that stuff is creepy. And while much of it seems far fetched, the mere POSSIBLY of it being real adds an element of fright to it that most normal horror flicks can't do for me. Especially these stupid excuse for horror flims like Saw that are little more than snuff films that get cheap scares from blood and guts. But I digress..

I will say, while I don't believe in an organized group called the "illuminati" that are a bunch of devil worshipers and go out and constantly engage in evil and corruption, I think it's pretty naive to assume there aren't powers that be out there that engage in secret meetings and secret activities that are often malicious if it means more money and power for them. I mean look at Bilderburg. It's REAL, and we know it's real. It's right there in plain sight.

As George Carlin once said, "power does what it wants." Just because there are higher ups, doesn't mean they always abide by the law.



I think the word illuminati takes something real that needs understanding and makes it a boogy man. Better off just knowing details like: congress should be able to print money not a independent bank. And both American political parties are bought by the same contributors.

If we understand the purpose of the us constitution we will be better able to stop the folks u are describing. Yes I believe that it's real. And that 99% of ppl are too blissfully ignorant to even know they are in danger. Or what's at stake. They think the presidents job is to make jobs and free gay ppl.

I wanna comment that I agree the films are scarier than shit in theaters. Funny. It's more entertaining and blissful to have knowledge of it IMO. I get a kick out of those like The Obama Deception and The Money Masters. Oh and Loose Change!!



Of course they exist, they consist of the business men who like to take away our rights.



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I believe more in the Los Illuminados



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Bunch of affluent, aged white men that build secret hideouts and discuss master plans like 8 year olds in a tree fort. Nothing more.



A secret world wide conspiracy would take to many moving parts to execute without it being discovered within 2 years.

Hell... children and single paranoid adults can hack into the computer systems of the most powerful countries in the world.

If there was an Illuminati... everyone would know.  Through actual proof.

Not childish made up videos made by people with paranoia disorders that count the number of letters in peoples names and use anagrams like the Illuminati is run by the Riddler or something.



Of course they exist and Lady Gaga is their Queen since she apparently litters her videos with Illuminati symbols.



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Well, the official version is of course that the illuminati only existed for about a decade before they were forbidden in Bavaria, which caused the members to say "Oh, if our order is forbidden, it must be bad and our beliefs must be all wrong. So instead of carrying on in secret, founding a kind of successor organization or going somewhere else, let's immediately stop all our actions and turn our beliefs by 180 degrees!"
Remember that there was also no mafia in the USA during the days of J. Edgar Hoover. After all such organizations would have been forbidden and Hoover even explicitely stated that there are no such organizations. Problem solved! ;)

But seriously. I think the question is leading in a wrong direction. When the order of the illuminati was forbidden in 1785, it probably stopped to exist in its historical form. But the members probably didn't change their beliefs and aims just because their order got forbidden.
Think of the US "office of strategic influence". The purpose of that government organization founded shortly after 9/11 was nothing but spreading propaganda. For example spreading black propaganda (false information, like the made-up story of iraqi soldiers killing babies in incubators) or paying influential international journalists for publishing certain "pro-american" articles.
After less than one year, the organization was closed, because it got media attention and many people didn't like the idea of their government spreading black propaganda etc.
But did that mean that the US goverment thought "People are right, the aims of that organization were bad, we really shouldn't do those things?" Of course not. The organization was officially shut down, people were satisfied, the media stopped reporting about it, but its tasks were in fact simply transferred to other organizations like the "Office of global communications" (which is a better euphemism anyway).

In my opinion, "illuminati" is just a name, discussing if an organization with that name still exist is misleading and irrelevant, and the better question would be: "what did the members of the illuminati do after their order was forbidden? For example, did they join or found organizations that might have similar aims?"