Argh_College said:
Haters, Haters everywhere! Many will eat nasty things by this years ends :D it will feel good :) |
That's Slmebeast for ya though...you've never seen his posts before?
He's a very - "I hate sunshine. I hate flowers. " kind of guy :)
Anyway im buying Surface, Also love Ipad its pretty good device.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi1HwI1OaTU
This video is pretty good.
| Argh_College said: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vmxqm8Qii-E Engadget review! |
Here is a review summary for people who want a topline of all reviews.
http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-surface-rt-a-review-roundup-7000006319/
| RVDondaPC said: XBOX is now a profitable, world wide known brand. Microsoft can now also use it to leverage it with their othe products/Window devices. It helps to diversify Microsoft's protfolio. It has a large and engaging userbase. And it also helped deleverage Sony and other companies from completely taking over the living room space and hurting it's Windows division, which was it's only real goal at birth. How can you label it, not a success? Because a company had to invest capital at it's inception to get it off the ground? That makes no sense. We might as well label Google buying Motorola, not a success either. Since it spent $12 Billion buying it and it lost half a billion dollars last quarter. Progress and time means nothing about success to you, lets just label things failures squarely on the initial cost of something. |
So, judging by the phrasing, you disagree with labelling Google's purchase a failure? I would argue that it is a complete and utter failure, business wise. At the time of the deal the consensus was that the purchase was for the patents, and those patents have proven to be rather worthless in court, certainly not justifying the exorbitant cost. Others speculated it was for the set-top business, but that's been discontinued. Motorola's smartphone business is moribund (Samsung is the only one making any profit selling Android phones), so Google's claim that the purchase would "supercharge" the Android market is vastly overblown. As far as I can tell we haven't seen any business justification that the $12.5 billion will ever pay itself off. It is tempting to speculate that the high asking price was forced by Motorola's ex-CEO, but did Google really have to spend that much money to eliminate one rogue agent?
disolitude said:
He's a very - "I hate sunshine. I hate flowers. " kind of guy :) |
If even you think like this though, I'd say RT is in trouble :).
Still, I say it will be a successful product. The interface is very nice on tablets, and as long as there is a decent flow of apps there won't be much to complain about it apart from the price. I think the price will drop very quick though. It is a $300 worth of tablet, nothing more.
michael_stutzer said:
If even you think like this though, I'd say RT is in trouble :). Still, I say it will be a successful product. The interface is very nice on tablets, and as long as there is a decent flow of apps there won't be much to complain about it apart from the price. I think the price will drop very quick though. It is a $300 worth of tablet, nothing more. |
I think the fact Windows 8 is very esthetically pretty and that everything Microsoft is bundling with it runs smooth and much more fluid than stuff on Android or iPad will carry it with the masses. If they can fill the app store quickly, that will help too.
But for PC users who are finally looking to have that PC experience in a tablet form, Surface RT is not the answer.
| selnor said: Also it has full Microsoft Office 2013 Home and Student Edition. Which I can use to print letters, CV's, etc. Use excel to monitor a business or make spreadsheets which I can take wit me and print anywhere. Etc. |
Just make sure you MS doesn't catch you doing that, unless you also purchase MS Office 2013.
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/home-and-student/office-home-student-rt-preview-FX103210361.aspx
Can I use Office Home & Student 2013 RT for work or business?
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Me since the games were revealed, the fanboys since E3." 
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disolitude said:
He's a very - "I hate sunshine. I hate flowers. " kind of guy :) |
lol yeah I had seen his comment as well. Just had to ignore him, some people are just like that. Still though, I believe this is a good investment for MSFT just like I think phones are. It may take a few years for them to catch up but this is a windows device. It will be very recognizeable across all platforms pretty soon and it will boost phone and tablet sales for windows. Surface doesnt have to out sale apple to be a success.
ebw said:
So, judging by the phrasing, you disagree with labelling Google's purchase a failure? I would argue that it is a complete and utter failure, business wise. At the time of the deal the consensus was that the purchase was for the patents, and those patents have proven to be rather worthless in court, certainly not justifying the exorbitant cost. Others speculated it was for the set-top business, but that's been discontinued. Motorola's smartphone business is moribund (Samsung is the only one making any profit selling Android phones), so Google's claim that the purchase would "supercharge" the Android market is vastly overblown. As far as I can tell we haven't seen any business justification that the $12.5 billion will ever pay itself off. It is tempting to speculate that the high asking price was forced by Motorola's ex-CEO, but did Google really have to spend that much money to eliminate one rogue agent? |
You're missing the point. How can you label it a failure so soon? You're basing it all on the initial cost of the transaction. That is the same thing that was done with the XBOX. It cost MS Billions to establish the brand, but now that it is making money and the added value it brings to MS and will continue to bring to MS that is being ignored by you guys.
Google has just barely purchased Motorola. They have said that Motorola products that have been influenced by Google now owning the company wont even hit the market until 2013 holiday season. So what does current profit selling Android phones have to do with anything? They haven't released a Google influenced phone yet to even measure it's success and profitability. Also you don't know what influence Motorola's patent portfolio has had on mobile phone litigation for Goog. It was purchased to prevent Google from being bombarded with lawsuits from all the other mobile players. As of now I don't think there has been any serious lawsuit judgments against Goog that has to do with mobile since they purchased Motorola and they have even filed some lawsuits of their own. That is a much prettier picture than being the punching bag that it was when Android first came out. Goog also isn't even done restructuring Motorola as a company, so just relax before you go labeling something a complete failure. Wait a few years then you can start to make a judgment. It took XBOX about 7 years to make a profit, and it's been a profitable business ever since.
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