VicViper said:
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Sorry for misunderstanding your attack of the Vita's line-up of games thread by thinking it was an attack of the Vita's line-up of games.
My bad.
VicViper said:
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Sorry for misunderstanding your attack of the Vita's line-up of games thread by thinking it was an attack of the Vita's line-up of games.
My bad.
M.U.G.E.N said:
Your tone and attitude starting from the OP itself shows yours intentions Vic so don't act so clueless. Vita line up is great. Ffs I won't be able to buy all the games I need this year even. Let's forget about the first party games, though it's pretty fantastic. Why the hell do you want to know about 3rd party exclusives for NEXT year? We still have around 2 months+ left this year. Most of the 3rd party games released this year were announced/revealed THIS year. Also we know titles like Soul Sacrifice, Picotto knights and EDF etc are coming. Seriously this is just pathetic. Where is your concerned threads about western support for 3ds? you know what forget that...where are your threads on the currently released or about to be released vita titles? Seriously, I hate this pretend to be genuinely concerned but fuck all we all know what this is all about acts. Get real and be frank for a change. Do you even own a vita? smh |
Glad you joined.
You once said this:
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4786793
And I remember you being very disappointed with Vita support in japan pre (vita heaven) and post TGS (and sales tell a better story than me or you, as you most likely visit japan sales threads). If you think those are problems, I think they're EXTREME problems, so sue me if I don't really think Vita is safe on support, and especially japanese support - for two reasons:
one - I probably play 98% games from japan.
two - that support is what keeps the portables viable around the world. I really don't see western supporting a platform selling like Vita is.
So, Vita, since I love portables, from a very possible buy, with sub 10k sales, non-existant holiday support in japan and poor in the future (no exclusives, like OP states) becomes a very possible doubt. You should reply to Andrespetmonkey or Kresnik too, I think - as they think is poor too, as they stated in this thread and have a Vita (andre for sure, Kresnik I think). Anyway, I think I'm stating a Vita problem here, and like I said, a very bad one. You can't expect sales to rise (and you know, sales ARE important) without VITA games. Can you believe that, in 2013 the first exclusive is going to released in April, and it's just a chance, not a reality... really not a solution to Vita's problem - especially since Vita's exclusives now probably won't have effect now in japan (and let's be realistic, they have a very difficult job in the west too).
Yea hardly any "exclusive third party games" have been announced for next year yet does this even matter? Well of course it matters but not as much as you guys seem to think. (America only)
First off Sony has a great lineup of first party games. Sure it can't make the Vita thrive but they are defiantly enough to make it do decent. Nintendo survived the whole gamecube generation without huge third party support and for the coming year the Vita can do the same.
On top of it there is a lot more third party support than you guys believe. Most of the stupid 3DS games are also stupid games on Vita. Exclusives or not they help the console. In addition Vita has tons of third party exclusives already out and coming out next year yet just because they are download only they don't count? I understand the logic because download games are usually shorter and less "system selly" but on Vita they are a huge factor of its success. These games don't need to be announced a year in advance so we can only start worrying in 12 months.
Also as much as you hate them, console ports exclusive to Vita are good and do exist. Take Need for Speed as an example. The Vita version has 90% of the console content plus its own bonuses yet that can't be considered important in the handheld wars? Just like saying a game is exclusive to xbox when it is also on pc we should consider Vita console ports as a form of exclusives. Ad in that porting to Vita only takes a few months and it makes sense that none of these exclusive ports have been announced for next year.
On top of that the 3DS is a different beast than the PSV. It will naturally have a lot of exclusive content because it appeals to a different gamer. No dev is going to port fluffy princess to Vita this early in its life.
VicViper said:
Glad you joined. You once said this: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4786793 And I remember you being very disappointed with Vita support in japan pre and post TGS (and sales tell a better story than me or you, as you most likely visit japan sales threads). If you think those are problems, I think they're EXTREME problems, so sue me if I don't really think Vita is safe on support, and especially japanese support - for two reasons: one - I probably play 98% games from japan. two - that support is what keeps the portables viable around the world. I really don't see western supporting a platform selling like Vita is. So, Vita, since I love portables, from a very possible buy, with sub 10k sales, non-existant holiday support in japan and poor in the future (no exclusives, like OP states) becomes a very possible doubt. You should reply to Andrespetmonkey or Kresnik too, I think - as they think is poor, as they stated in this thread and have a Vita (I think). Anyway, I think I'm stating a Vita problem here, and like I said, a very bad one. You can't expect sales to rise (and you know, sales ARE important) without VITA games. Can you believe that, in 2013 the first exclusive is going to released in April... really not a solution to Vita's problem - especially since Vita's exclusives now probably won't have effect now in japan (and let's be realistic, very difficult job in the west too). |
ugh yeah..that links proves that unlike you I keep it even..when sony messes up I call it..did it for E3 and TGS..also on games like Book of memories at reveal (I say reveal cuz apparently I was wrong and it is in fact a pretty decent titles) and also on some choices made by superbot
Unlike you I also have a system..and genunely care for its future
Unlike you I'm VERY content with the line up..cuz unlike you I understand the localization track record for vita has been awesome...and as I mentioned I know there are already announced 3rd party exclusives which will be joined by others next year..I also know a lot of such titles got revealed this year...and are getting released this year...I also think some of these multiplats will be excellent fits for on the go entertainment
seriously drop this stupid act would you..you don't give a shit about vita if it comes back and hit you in the face. Seriously ..where is your love for portables displayed through your countless threads about the great games the system has gotten or are getting? Where are they?
If you want to you can call this thread a vitas lack of BIG title support in Japan..then I would agree...and I would also say redundant since it's a topic discussed to death by now. The western line up is not bad at all...especially with more to be revealed..for example we know Rockstar is making games for vita but we have no clue what they are yet. We know multple sources claiming Type-0 is being localized for vita as well..chances are they are waiting until the userbase is big enough to release them...mid/end next year I'm assuming.
again...why are we dancing around this whole thing? Stop this silly act already..it's tiresome.
Lastly I say this...I am an accountant..so working with numbers is something I do every day...even then I don't give a shit about sales..at least not to the extent some of you seems to. Cuz at the end of the day..I'm a gamer with no stock in Sony. As long as I get the games and we ARE getting some great games, I will be more than happy.

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M.U.G.E.N said:
Your tone and attitude starting from the OP itself shows yours intentions Vic so don't act so clueless. Vita line up is great. Ffs I won't be able to buy all the games I need this year even. Let's forget about the first party games, though it's pretty fantastic. Why the hell do you want to know about 3rd party exclusives for NEXT year? We still have around 2 months+ left this year. Most of the 3rd party games released this year were announced/revealed THIS year. Also we know titles like Soul Sacrifice, Picotto knights and EDF etc are coming. Seriously this is just pathetic. Where is your concerned threads about western support for 3ds? you know what forget that...where are your threads on the currently released or about to be released vita titles? Seriously, I hate this pretend to be genuinely concerned but fuck all we all know what this is all about acts. Get real and be frank for a change. Do you even own a vita? smh |
Wow, you look so fanboyish. I can feel the hate and the cry from your comment. O.o
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samuship said:
Wow, you look so fanboyish. I can feel the hate and the cry from your comment. O.o |
yeah calling as i see it makes me a fanboy...that's cute..really..very cute..share your deepest thoughts with us would you?
and what hate? 0_o you make it sound like this is the first time me and Vic had a bit of an argument...
oh and reported :)

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oh speaking of which another 3rd party exclusive just got announced for Japan...like shocking right?!

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M.U.G.E.N said:
and what hate? 0_o you make it sound like this is the first time me and Vic had a bit of an argument... oh and reported :) |
Oh, I just can't let a comment so passionate like yours pass...it looks so sore. You try to say that first party support is awesome, while the thread is about exclusive third party support. Also, you use strong words to attack Vic, and try to justify yourself with dumb arguments like: "do you even own a Vita?".
Holy mother.
We need moar Zelda, now!
We need moar Unchartedzz!
We need less DLCs.

samuship said:
Holy mother. |
aww did I hurt your sensibilities with some 'strong' words like fuck? I'm really fucking sorry...I am..truly
and why am I being sore? LOL...
and no genius I said one comment about first parties. That's it. I'm sure you can read the rest (not advised tho...strong language detected)
and ugh how can it can be a dumb argument to question the concern about of someone who doesn't own the system yet worries about it day and night? 0_o
but hey next time please you sweet and innocent language terms like fanboy okie?

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| M.U.G.E.N said: ugh yeah..that links proves that unlike you I keep it even..when sony messes up I call it..did it for E3 and TGS..also on games like Book of memories at reveal (I say reveal cuz apparently I was wrong and it is in fact a pretty decent titles) and also on some choices made by superbot Unlike you I also have a system..and genunely care for its future Unlike you I'm VERY content with the line up..cuz unlike you I understand the localization track record for vita has been awesome...and as I mentioned I know there are already announced 3rd party exclusives which will be joined by others next year..I also know a lot of such titles got revealed this year...and are getting released this year...I also think some of these multiplats will be excellent fits for on the go entertainment seriously drop this stupid act would you..you don't give a shit about vita if it comes back and hit you in the face. Seriously ..where is your love for portables displayed through your countless threads about the great games the system has gotten or are getting? Where are they? If you want to you can call this thread a vitas lack of BIG title support in Japan..then I would agree...and I would also say redundant since it's a topic discussed to death by now. The western line up is not bad at all...especially with more to be revealed..for example we know Rockstar is making games for vita but we have no clue what they are yet. We know multple sources claiming Type-0 is being localized for vita as well..chances are they are waiting until the userbase is big enough to release them...mid/end next year I'm assuming. again...why are we dancing around this whole thing? Stop this silly act already..it's tiresome. Lastly I say this...I am an accountant..so working with numbers is something I do every day...even then I don't give a shit about sales..at least not to the extent some of you seems to. Cuz at the end of the day..I'm a gamer with no stock in Sony. As long as I get the games and we ARE getting some great games, I will be more than happy. |
Not an act, in fact, I think the PSP for example was amazing (precisely for lacking the problems Vita is having - remember MGS, Monster Hunter, Final Fantasies, all exclusives - among literally hundreds more, right from the bat). I was a little pissed of with it dying and keep a lot of games unreleased in the west - so do you I assume - but it's back catalogue makes up for this - and then some more.
Pardon me to like companies like Level 5, Capcom, Square, Atlus and not being like Ryuzaki - who likes Hatune Miku and AKB! - or badgenome who loves niche games like earth defense force. I played persona 4 to hell - not for me now, as I didn't replayed even my favorite jrpg ever, but great addition to vita's library, but still not "exclusive". I think the market generally agrees with me, or else vita sales wouldn't be like that, even with the high price (which is not that high). Vita was not meant to sell like that (sales forecasts) and that always have consequences - or else no system would ever fail
I (and most everyone) hate long discussions, I don't even know what I'm typing, really, it's useless, as no one wins these. That was my opinion - I just think Vita's support will start very poor in 2013 and that can affect both sales and future support - as other platforms won't stop growing. Put yours, as you did and ok, I accept it, why would I change it, even if I could.