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VGKing on 22 October 2012
JOKA_ said:
If anyone considers Battlefield, Call of Duty, Far Cry, etc. (FPSs) clones of each other then you kind of need to consider All-Stars a clone of Smash.

And I will say again, why is that a bad thing? Smash is effing awesome, if Sony manages to recreate those epic chaotic battles I love from Brawl I will be all over All-Stars.

Those FPS games aren't really clones of each other. Those you listed are actually pretty different from each other. The only thing they have similar is the first person view and guns, maybe even the controls. That's about it. 



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VGKing on 22 October 2012
alastor@where said:
PSASBR is a ripoff for sure. Played the Vita beta and they even ripped off the likes of the announcer from Smash bros. In my opinion though its plays worse then Smash bros. Also Sony were way too dependant on the third party characters. They have other good first party characters but they stuck with some weird ones.


So now you say Smash Bros invented the announcers too? LMFAO!

Ever played a game like Tekken? 



pokoko on 22 October 2012
Chark said:

Also people, stop saying the game isn't fun! It hasn't even released yet!

Many of those who are most upset decided that the game wasn't fun on the day it was announced, and quite a few of those will seek out and play the game with the sole purpose of being able to say, "I played it and it wasn't fun."

Arguing against them will be a waste of time.  The best revenge will be if the game really is fun.  Fingers crossed for fanboy angst.



VGKing on 22 October 2012
Flanneryaug said:

I tried out the demo for this game yesterday, and it plays differently than smash bros, even if it is a rip off. However, while it can be fun at first to try out the characters, and their supers, there are many problems with the game. The characters are unbalanced, and the stages are uninteresting. I recommend that anyone considering buying this game try out the demo for a while to see if they enjoy it.


First of all, there's only like 6 characters in the beta, second of all, there are only 2 stages in the beta.

There is no demo, only a beta. This beta is months old. Omar already said that the UI and graphics in the game are outdated.



miz1q2w3e on 22 October 2012
JWeinCom said:
miz1q2w3e said:
So what if it is? Why do people think that's such a bad thing?

I think most people would agree that profiting off of the works of others is a bad thing.  Even if you're not talking about moral implications, it's worse for gamers.  Games that break the mold, challenge conventions, and change things up advance their respective genres.  Something like Heavy Rain or Shadow of the Colossus moves the industry forward while something like PASBR stagnates.

I gotta say, nice post.



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VGKing on 22 October 2012
o_O.Q said:
JWeinCom said:
Yeah, it's a rip off. They took the concept from Nintendo wholesale, they took 90% of the control scheme, 90% of the physics engine, 90% of the presentation, 90% of the aesthetics and so on. I was playing it at a store demo for about half an hour yesterday and literally every person that stopped to look at it said "oh that looks like Smash Brothers". The only major change that's been made is in the KO system. You don't change one thing and have a brand new game.

If you're ok with the game being a rip off, than that's fine. I sincerely hope you enjoy the game. But please, let's not ignore the obvious. Smash Bros. made tons of creative changes to the fighting genre, and because of that it spawned a successful franchise and tons of imitators. PASBR adds just about nothing to the genre and as a result will be a footnote in gaming history.


this was your post in another thread

"It feels unpolished, loose, and the mechanics don't feel like they'd lend themselves to a competitive fighter."

edit: the link to the post : http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4818089

 

now this is an extract from your current post

"90% of the control scheme, 90% of the physics engine"

 

to me it seems like you're heavily contradicting yourself there...

in one post you say the game has poor controls and mechanics while in the other you basically say its controls and mechanics are the same as smash bros...

now the conclusion that can be drawn is that you're also saying the smash has poor controls and mechanics but no i'm pretty certain that that isn't the case either....

THANK YOU! I'm glad someone pointed this out. These haters are hypocrites. 



JWeinCom on 22 October 2012
VGKing said:
o_O.Q said:
JWeinCom said:
Yeah, it's a rip off. They took the concept from Nintendo wholesale, they took 90% of the control scheme, 90% of the physics engine, 90% of the presentation, 90% of the aesthetics and so on. I was playing it at a store demo for about half an hour yesterday and literally every person that stopped to look at it said "oh that looks like Smash Brothers". The only major change that's been made is in the KO system. You don't change one thing and have a brand new game.

If you're ok with the game being a rip off, than that's fine. I sincerely hope you enjoy the game. But please, let's not ignore the obvious. Smash Bros. made tons of creative changes to the fighting genre, and because of that it spawned a successful franchise and tons of imitators. PASBR adds just about nothing to the genre and as a result will be a footnote in gaming history.


this was your post in another thread

"It feels unpolished, loose, and the mechanics don't feel like they'd lend themselves to a competitive fighter."

edit: the link to the post : http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4818089

 

now this is an extract from your current post

"90% of the control scheme, 90% of the physics engine"

 

to me it seems like you're heavily contradicting yourself there...

in one post you say the game has poor controls and mechanics while in the other you basically say its controls and mechanics are the same as smash bros...

now the conclusion that can be drawn is that you're also saying the smash has poor controls and mechanics but no i'm pretty certain that that isn't the case either....

THANK YOU! I'm glad someone pointed this out. These haters are hypocrites. 


Right, because you could never rip something off and not be as good right?  Mole Kart is totally as good as Mario Kart 7 isn't it?



ninetailschris on 22 October 2012

Preorders are low.

20 characters. 3 of Which make no sense.

People telling people to buy a game because of a future DLC.

See... this doing very well.

Japan Preorders are going to be fun.

The game is a copy with a new engine. It doesn't mean it's going to suck. Btw anyone remember the wii in the background? Yea totally there because Sony loves the Wii!

2d Background was suppose to be a play on most Nintendo games come from a 2d world. What about Sony? 1 or 2 in the game?

Should have been a epic 3d fighter like run around or something not a copy of SMB.

I played outfox and it's not like SMB at all really. It's only that people saw the game and see how it's a 2d fighter everyone assumed are the same as PSAS is to SMB.



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o_O.Q on 22 October 2012
JWeinCom said:
miz1q2w3e said:
So what if it is? Why do people think that's such a bad thing?


I think most people would agree that profiting off of the works of others is a bad thing.  Even if you're not talking about moral implications, it's worse for gamers.  Games that break the mold, challenge conventions, and change things up advance their respective genres.  Something like Heavy Rain or Shadow of the Colossus moves the industry forward while something like PASBR stagnates.

 

why aren't you criticising nintendo for releasing super mario bros u, pikmin 3 etc?

i'd think that if you were so concerned over the lack of new ideas in gaming you'd be far more critical of what nintendo has been doing 

how many actual new ips has nintendo themselves been developing for launch window in comparison to old ( imo overused ) ips?

yet somehow i don't remember you making this point then



Flanneryaug on 22 October 2012
VGKing said:
Flanneryaug said:

I tried out the demo for this game yesterday, and it plays differently than smash bros, even if it is a rip off. However, while it can be fun at first to try out the characters, and their supers, there are many problems with the game. The characters are unbalanced, and the stages are uninteresting. I recommend that anyone considering buying this game try out the demo for a while to see if they enjoy it.


First of all, there's only like 6 characters in the beta, second of all, there are only 2 stages in the beta.

There is no demo, only a beta. This beta is months old. Omar already said that the UI and graphics in the game are outdated.

Actually, there is a demo. I tried it out yesterday at Walmart. It had Kratos, Jak, Big Daddy, and Parappa. Kratos was clearly overpowered, and Big Daddy is so slow he's virtually unplayable.



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