Sony-Doom and Nintendo-Doom are two very different beasts ...

Sony-Doom is based (primarily) on the corporate finances of Sony along with the poor sales of the PS-Vita and involves doubts about whether Sony learned their lesson with the PS3 and/or whether they can adapt to function using a strategy that doesn't involve dramatic up-front losses. In other words, while you may disagree with the analysis, Sony-Doom is based on extrapolation of problems Sony currently is having; and is ultimately based in reality.

Nintendo-Doom is based (primarily) on flawed assumptions surrounding moronic stereotypes, and a significant effort is spent ignoring reality. Nintendo's strong (overall) finances, the solid sales of the 3DS, decent interest in the Wii U, the explosion of multi-console ownership in the previous generation (because people buy a system that offers unique gaming experiences not necessarily the best graphics), and etc.

Sony doom articles would go away if Sony fixed some of their underlying problems and saw success in general, but no amount of success will ever eliminate Nintendo doom articles. Essentially, after (about) 2009 the "Sony Doom" dried up until Sony released the PS-Vita because the PS3 and PSP were selling far better; but even when Nintendo was selling the Wii and Nintendo DS at record pace people were writing about how their failure was right around the corner.

That Pachter guy is largely to blame. He has been saying Nintendo is doomed since 2005. It's 2012 now and he's still wrong.

But saying that Sony have been making money since day one this gen would be... lying, right?

Happy squirrel very analitical as always, nice post

Seems about right.

Sony doom = based on facts.
Nintendo doom = based on ignorance.

This is why even though in 2008 Nintendo saw the most profitable year that any videogame company has ever seen, they were still somehow doomed.

Good first thread I think.

It would always be fashionable for certain people to bash Nintendo, simply because they grew up with PS and not Nintendo. I think people like myself that lived throught the 8 bit days have a bit more love for the Nintendo and the industry and do not base our opinions on what is bigger, badder, or even better.

While Nintendo fans, like myself, do sometime take the opportunity to bash Sony (and much less MS) we only do so in light of the failed efforts and prayers of the mostly Sony fanboys in bringing about Nintendo's demise.

The simple fact of the matter is that today Nintendo is doing better than either Sony or MS when it comes to the videogames industry. So the Sony doom articles are quite justified, because Sony are in need of urgent restructure in their gaming devision - since their first party games sell like crap, hardware is only bought by fanboys, while sucessful software ideas are dependent on 3rd parties. Almost the opposite of this is true about Nintendo.

As long as nintendo sell at profits and move good numbers they will remain here forever. Perhaps people are trying to 'influence' the outside world. I have no idea. All I see in these doom articles is "I don't like the idea so nobody does" and it doesn't work that way.

I would like to remind people about the stupidly high game prices they charged during the 64 days. Games were going for as much as £90. They are the only company to have gotten away with this successfully. That should tell you how powerful nintendo actually are.

Great first thread!

Gotta agree with many of the posts here, particularly the posts from DanneSandin and HappySqurriel.

The sad fact is that many "Nintendo is doomed" features are wishful thinking. I think some fans, and some fans-turned-journalists, can't imagine why Nintendo is doing well when the company eschews all of the things they love about video games. I don't really think it's about N64 and Gamecube. I think it's about Wii. I think for many video game enthusiasts, Wii is an insult.

I also think that gaming sites are simply catering to the lowest common denominator when they run articles about "Nintendo is doomed." It's about getting hits, ultimately. I just haven't seen many convincing cases being made anywhere.

Lastly, the "Sony is doomed" articles seem to be the new flavor of the month.

The Wii and DS years were the some of the best years in Nintendo history. They were raking in enough money to use as toilet paper. That's some screw up.

Nintendo was doomed to serve the core gamer. But business wise they have never been more successful.