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What are the most significant factors?

Genetic factors 131 47.29%
 
Environmental factors 65 23.47%
 
People freely choose their sexuality 47 16.97%
 
Other 32 11.55%
 
Total:275
the2real4mafol said:

How?


You can physically have sex with anybody really, but you cannot mentally force yourself to see the person as attractive. I can stick my dick into anything if a feel like it, but there would be nothing other than the physical sensation of sex and even that would probably be much less significant. 



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the2real4mafol said:
xxbrothawizxx63 said:

I could choose to be gay, but i don't think it would fill right for me and I don't get why people want to know what causes someone to be gay, it's not a disease you know. It really depends on the person as well i think


There is a large difference between sexual attraction and comitting a sexual act. 

How?



Same with any desire and action. You may choose to eat chocolate. But you don't choose to desire chocolate.

Jay520 said:
the2real4mafol said:
Jay520 said:
the2real4mafol said:

I could choose to be gay, but i don't think it would feel right for me and I don't get why people want to know what causes someone to be gay, it's not a disease you know. It really depends on the person as well i think


Exactly, you don't control what "feels right" for you. That means it's not a choice.

Would you say the same for trannies or bisexuals then?



their actions are choices. their internal desire is not.

They just seem the same as gays to me, who choose that. I mean you wouldn't dress up as a woman if you didn't want to. I view being gay in the same light



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Jay520 said:
the2real4mafol said:
xxbrothawizxx63 said:

I could choose to be gay, but i don't think it would fill right for me and I don't get why people want to know what causes someone to be gay, it's not a disease you know. It really depends on the person as well i think


There is a large difference between sexual attraction and comitting a sexual act. 

How?



Same with any desire and action. You may choose to eat chocolate. But you don't choose to desire chocolate.

Some people do desire chocolate though



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Some people do desire chocolate though


I think you're getting caught up on the word choice of out argument. He's using the word desire instead of want for a reason. "Want" implies a conscious choice while "desire" doesn't which in this case makes the distinction necessary. Why would a Transexual make a conscious decision to endure the internal turmoil that come along with the sense that you're the wrong sex? Yea, you're right, there is a "want" to dress like the opposite sex, but a "desire" to be the opposite sex a different. The want is caused by the desire in that case, the desire being the a pretty much permanent sense that you were born into the wrong body. 

Truthfully, I don't even think I should be speaking on behalf of transexausls because I do think their situation is a bit different from that of homosexuals. On one hand you have VERY effeminate gay men who have no desire to be women and other the other hand there are transexuals. In a way, I do feel like they are on the same spectrum with being gay on one hand, effeminate gay men in the middle, and transexuals on the other side. 



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Homosexuality is the result of deep-rooted confusion about the proper role of self and others in society and in relationship to one another. It is a condition that cannot persist through time, prevents the continuation of a species, degrades proper moral and intellectual development, and destroys the body. This being said, we should not curse the homosexual, for he is gravely confused and holds many falsehoods true; we should not hurt the homosexual, even though he hurts himself and those around him; rather, we must renounce that which is falsehood in his life and help him to overcome his disordered (not properly ordered) desires.

It has been plainly seen for millennia by the the vast majority of mankind that homosexuality is disordered and is something to be repressed and destroyed by society (which implies that it must be repressed and destroyed at an individual level as well). We know that repression and destruction implies pain and suffering - but if we destroy that which is evil, do we not do well? Which is not to say that the person with such desires must be destroyed. On the contrary, we must prevent him from destroying himself.

What gives rise to the homosexual movement in our society today? It is the outcome of numerous factors. Male-female relationships have become overtly sexual, and male-female relations which are not extremely sexual are seen today as 'less than' a normal, functioning relationship. Now, the homosexual is such a one that will have trouble functioning in a heterosexual relationship - but in times past, such relationships were not based on sex, but were based on commitment, contracts, and other such devices. And so today, the homosexual has a great deal of trouble finding a suitable wife, because he is told that the ideal partner must be sexually attractive before all else. This is a lie that has crept into our society.

So when we seek to conquer the homosexual problem of today, in such a way that the homosexual can be liberated from the tyranny of his disordered sexual desires, we must look at the heterosexual relationship first, which has been distorted and has become the model for the homosexual relationship. For you see, a correct heterosexual relationship has as a component sex, for a purpose, but does not has as its main purpose sex. The 'homosexual' person believes, truly or falsely, that intercourse with a member of the opposite sex will not be as satisfying as with a member of the same sex, and therefore, that this precludes them from any successful heterosexual relationship. Unfortunately, in our society, this is true.

And so we see that the problem in our society does not rest on the homosexual, but rests on the heterosexual members of our society, who, understanding and perpetuating a false ideal of a proper heterosexual relationship, have forced others to believe themselves inadequate for a heterosexual relationship, pushing them into the homosexual relationship. Seeing then that the problem is actually the offspring of false ideas in the majority of the population, we must strive to correct these ideals, in doing so, correcting the homosexual problem. For the homosexual understands he has a problem - they know they do not conform to the heterosexual norm - and so they have sought to change the norm, but they have done so in the wrong way, and so have continued to push society in the same direction that it was already headed, which is, toward even greater sexualization.

The increased sexualization of relationships will push people not only from heterosexuality, but from homosexuality, into even more deviant sexual relationships, because people will feel that they fail to live up to the sexual ideal of each new category created, and so directing their sexual energies elsewhere.



Overpopulation. It is an environmental factor where human beings are exposed to an environment which is 1000's of times greater population density than for the majority of human history.

The other major factor is genetic from the female side, I.E. an increased rate of fertility at the expense of producing gay sons.



Tease.

NolSinkler said:

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As an actual gay man, this is just completely wrong.



As somebody who is working with the help of God to overcome my own homosexual desires, it is right.



Squilliam said:
Overpopulation. It is an environmental factor where human beings are exposed to an environment which is 1000's of times greater population density than for the majority of human history.

The other major factor is genetic from the female side, I.E. an increased rate of fertility at the expense of producing gay sons.


Though I don't see how overpopulation is a real factor unless you said it in relation to your next point there is some substance and data to suggest that there is truth in your second point. 

Several studies have found that the the gay child in a family typically is the last or near the last. Supposedly, the male fetus is seem as somewhat of a foreign object in the womb and and a women's body naturally tries to "feminize" the fetus. The hypothesis states that as a women has more sons, here body become more adept at this process resulting in homsexual sons. That doesn't explain lesbians though.