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First half of last century (no EU) - death toll from European wars probably more than 100 million
Second half of last century (with EU) - death toll from European wars probably below 10 million

I somehow can understand that reasoning



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Faxanadu said:
First half of last century (no EU) - death toll from European wars probably more than 100 million
Second half of last century (with EU) - death toll from European wars probably below 10 million

I somehow can understand that reasoning


I feel like if the EU existed in the first hald of the last centyrty, there still would of been europeon wars... and without the EU, still wouldn't be wars today.

Really it's more the realiteis of war that's changed then the countries themselves.

 

Either way, seems like a silly decision.  I mean, there are dozens of humanitarians, non violent dissdents and plenty of others that could of eaisly gotten the award.

 

That said the Nobel Prize  comittee has been slowly getting crazier and crazier and crazier.

 

I mean hell, an American hasn't won a nobel prize in literature since 1993... and after that 14 out of 16 writers who won the prize lived in europe when they were writing the prize they won.  (17 now... maybe?  Not sure where the new guy was living when writing about the brutalites of China.)

 

In general they're insolated and can't look beyond they're sharaed groupthink attidues.  The EU move was probably done because of all the trouble the EU has had recently with poorer countries having to decide between bailing or not.

Thinking in their own self importance that somehow their award would change the countries minds.

More and more they are having trouble looking beyond europe to recognize ANYTHING (likely why they couldn't name a single real humanitarian to give the award to.

In general, a ridiculious arrogance and lack of perspective has diminished all of the nobel prize greatly.



I swear I read EA.

And went WHA??????



@kowenicki: the EU is the continuation of the EEC.



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@Kasz216: I disagree.



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Most Nobel prizes, with the peace and literature ones being the most obvious examples, makes no sense most of the time and should be left blank most of the years, only bringing them back when there's a good motive to give them.

And even the serious ones lack credibility. For instance, did you know that there is a limit of people that can win it for a given task? I think the limit is 3 or 4, meaning that if the price goes to a task with several project leaders involded in it, some of them will get out of the "glory" of the Nobel because of this limit. It has already happened several times ans it is ridiculous.

 

Oh, and kowenicki

- has a member state threatening military intervention in one of its own states, catalonia

I'm catalan and I'm confident that that won't happen. If only because that would cause a lot more troubles to Spain than solving problems (being kicked out of the UE, out of the Euro, having one of their richest and more industrialized zones destroyed which would cause the GPD to fall double digits, etc.).

Besides, the only ones that say that are retired members of the army that have no power and so called journalists that seem to have travelled 50 years back in time. Our polititians are stupid, but not that stupid.



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kowenicki said:
Faxanadu said:
First half of last century (no EU) - death toll from European wars probably more than 100 million
Second half of last century (with EU) - death toll from European wars probably below 10 million

I somehow can understand that reasoning

OK History lesson.

The EU (which has won this award) was formed in 1993 (the EU is NOT the EEC).  NATO was formed 1955.  So to correct your post:

First half of last century (no NATO) - death toll from European wars probably more than 100 million
Second half of last century (with NATO) - death toll from European wars probably below 10 million

You can hardly commend the EU for the second half of the centry peace when it only existed for 7 years in the last century! lol

care to rethink and recomment?

 

 


I'm sorry but you are wrong. The EEC, formed in 1957, was incorporated into the EU. The EU consists of the 3 pillars EWG(EEC) (1957), EGKS (1951) and EAG(1957). Those are the germen abbreviations, I'm too lazy to look the english ones up now. The EU is pretty much just the unification of those former independent institutions.

 

I agree though that this price should go to someone who personally fights for peace and not a faceless institution. Obama was bullshit too btw.



Ongoing bet with think-man: He wins if MH4 releases in any shape or form on PSV in 2013, I win if it doesn't.

lest not forget Al gore won it too.

this award becomes more of a joke every year.



spurgeonryan said:
Doesn't the winner or the Nobel Peace prize get a million dollars as well? Now you guys have more money to lend to Greece!


hahaha.  To bad the EU didn't win ALL the awards.



Its just a last ditch effort by the global elite to make the EU look good before it collapses



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