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milkyjoe said:
The problem with all the arguments about nostalgia is that a lot of the time, it's just assumed that the person who is talking about whatever particular older game in question hasn't played it in 5/10/15/etc years, and if they did play it now then they wouldn't like it as much.

That isn't always the case. A popular one I often get told is that I would not hold Ocarina of Time to be the best game ever made if I went to play it again today. In reality, I played the original N64 version last year, in the build up to the release of Skyward Sword, and my opinion has not changed.

Bingo.

I still *regularly* play Dreamcast, N64, PS1, Genesis, SNES, PC Engine, etc., etc. games and they're every bit as good, if not better in too many cases to note, than the games released now.

(I personally tend to draw the line at 16-bit as my own, personal, Golden Age of Gaming, not because I started gaming with that generation--I'm old enough to have owned and enjoyed the 2600 and its contemporaries--but because, even to thsi day, that's the home of my all-time favorite titles which I *still* play in 2012.)



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d21lewis said:

I haven't given SH2 another go but my kid wanted me to play Silent Hill: Homecoming.  After about an hour I was like "Hey, how about I play a Silent Hill game that actually......good?"  So many great memories with SH3 but goddam.  So many locked doors, stupid enemies, bad voice acting (Heather is okay--and even the graphics are good), backtracking, horrible camera controls, and nonsensical character behavior--it's hard to believe there was a time when we put up with some of this bullshit.  Part of me is debating selling every non-rpg PS2 game I own.

After my aborted attempt at revisting SH, I actually found Homecoming to be kind of good. I mean, at least I could play it. But it's been 2-3 years now. Maybe this is just nostalgia speaking and I should replay it to see if it holds up, but I don't want to risk my okay-ish memories of it.



Nostalgia is a pretty big thing. It's one of the reasons I feel the Final Fantasy series has a hard time satisfying everyone. The series tries to reinvent itself albeit keep some similarities with each entry. Of course there are people who love them, and then there are those who really dislike it. People remember what they played when they were younger. FFVII being the common "amazing" game for a lot of people. I really wish people would look at the new entries with a new set of eyes, and stop pretending the game will be FFVII 2.0. That hype level people generate over new entries ultimately leads to their own dissatisfaction. Versus XIII will be similar to the rest folks. It will be good but it's not going to be the "savior" you think it will be.



badgenome said:
d21lewis said:

I haven't given SH2 another go but my kid wanted me to play Silent Hill: Homecoming.  After about an hour I was like "Hey, how about I play a Silent Hill game that actually......good?"  So many great memories with SH3 but goddam.  So many locked doors, stupid enemies, bad voice acting (Heather is okay--and even the graphics are good), backtracking, horrible camera controls, and nonsensical character behavior--it's hard to believe there was a time when we put up with some of this bullshit.  Part of me is debating selling every non-rpg PS2 game I own.

After my aborted attempt at revisting SH, I actually found Homecoming to be kind of good. I mean, at least I could play it. But it's been 2-3 years now. Maybe this is just nostalgia speaking and I should replay it to see if it holds up, but I don't want to risk my okay-ish memories of it.

Yeah, my biggest problem with Homecoming was that I used an old save and I didn't know where I was trying to go.  After a few nights with SH3, I asked her if I could play Homecoming or Shattered Memories and just start from the beginning.  It was too late, though.  She wants to see how Heather's story plays out.  I'm kinda tempted to buy the newest Silent Hill.  If I can just make it through today, we'll have Resident Evil 6 tomorrow and her Silent Hill obssession will be forgotten.

 

Jet Grind Radio isn't as good as I remember, either.  The game is fun and the graphics hold up but technical issues and a HORRIBLE camera are making my run through the 360 version a bit frustrating.



Games that are rooted in good gameplay will always be good to play no matter how much they age. Games that really heavily on things like graphics, and I know many people might not like hear this but it is the truth so I am going to say it and STORY do not age well and seem like a chore to play after many years



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ECM said:
milkyjoe said:
The problem with all the arguments about nostalgia is that a lot of the time, it's just assumed that the person who is talking about whatever particular older game in question hasn't played it in 5/10/15/etc years, and if they did play it now then they wouldn't like it as much.

That isn't always the case. A popular one I often get told is that I would not hold Ocarina of Time to be the best game ever made if I went to play it again today. In reality, I played the original N64 version last year, in the build up to the release of Skyward Sword, and my opinion has not changed.

Bingo.

I still *regularly* play Dreamcast, N64, PS1, Genesis, SNES, PC Engine, etc., etc. games and they're every bit as good, if not better in too many cases to note, than the games released now.

(I personally tend to draw the line at 16-bit as my own, personal, Golden Age of Gaming, not because I started gaming with that generation--I'm old enough to have owned and enjoyed the 2600 and its contemporaries--but because, even to thsi day, that's the home of my all-time favorite titles which I *still* play in 2012.)


In most cases with nostalgia, you're only able to dream about re-living the experience. In this cas you can literally re-live the experience. I'm not sure if that still even relates to nostalgia, but it probably relates to force of habit. There are a lot of people who enjoy things they are comfortable with. The more comfortable they are with it the more they enjoy it and the less they enjoy other experiences. 

IMO. In this case we just have to accept everyone has different tastes.

If someone likes a game because of their sentiments, that's perfectly fine. Just as similarily there are others (like myself) who always need to play the newest game and shineyist. 

For me, sometimes I recall great memories of playing a game so I dig it up and try to play it again. After a minute or so I get bored and stop playing. It's me not the game >.<



d21lewis said:

Jet Grind Radio isn't as good as I remember, either.  The game is fun and the graphics hold up but technical issues and a HORRIBLE camera are making my run through the 360 version a bit frustrating.

Hmmm, I bought that but have been too scared to play it again. I think I might just wait for the Vita version later this month since I'll be so shocked to see Vita get a game, any game, that how well it actually holds up will be completely lost on me.

Also, I wish you were my dad!



There are quite a few games that I play from the 90's still. Almost always, its because new games have failed to continue the concepts or gameplay established in the older games.

For example, can you tell me of a similar game to Alpha Centauri? Or Capitalism Plus? Chrono Trigger? Phantasy Star 2/4? There really aren't a lot of great comparables out there, so I'd rather play them for cheap than buy a $40-60 game that is likely to suck. Even games from the PS2 era have had difficulty being copied. My wife and I love Dragon Quest VIII, and since we don't own a Wii/DS, we can't play the new ones (even then, they don't really look as similar as we'd want them to be).



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badgenome said:
d21lewis said:

Jet Grind Radio isn't as good as I remember, either.  The game is fun and the graphics hold up but technical issues and a HORRIBLE camera are making my run through the 360 version a bit frustrating.

Hmmm, I bought that but have been too scared to play it again. I think I might just wait for the Vita version later this month since I'll be so shocked to see Vita get a game, any game, that how well it actually holds up will be completely lost on me.

Also, I wish you were my dad!

Which reminds me.  I've been meaning to tell you something......



d21lewis said:

Which reminds me.  I've been meaning to tell you something......