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@Vertigo-X,

PS2 launched in March 2000. Was selling for 10 months.
PS3 launched in November 2006. Was selling for 1,5 month.

10 months of 2000 close to 1 year? YES.
1,5 month of 2006 close to 1 year? NO.
12 months of 2007 close to 1 year? YES.

Overall:
2000 PS2 = 2007 PS3 - 1st YEAR.
2001 PS2 = 2008 PS3 - 2nd YEAR.
A meaning that does not have logic??? What exactly is not logical in MY assumption?



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

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CrazzyMan said:
@Vertigo-X,
PS2 launched in March 2000. Was selling for 10 months.
PS3 launched in November 2006. Was selling for 1,5 month.

10 months of 2000 close to 1 year? YES.
1,5 month of 2006 close to 1 year? NO.
12 months of 2007 close to 1 year? YES.

Overall:
2000 PS2 = 2007 PS3 - 1st YEAR.
2001 PS2 = 2008 PS3 - 2nd YEAR.
A meaning that does not have logic??? What exactly is not logical in MY assumption?

 

The fact that for the PS2 only ONE region had it available for 10 months... The others were only present for 2.5 months. It is by far the most flawed example of a "first year". Japan is the only viable comparison, but since the PS2 is beating the PS3 equivalently, you've ommitted it! Come on, Crazzy! :(

 

EDIT: Edited for technicality. :)



The BuShA owns all!

As everyone is pointing out. Since you want to omit Japan sales the comparison needs to be altered.

PS2 non-Japan launched in October 2000. Was selling for 2.5 months.
PS3 non-Japan launched in November 2006. Was selling for 1.5 months.

2.5 months of 2000 close to 1 year? NO.
12 months of 2001 close to 1 year? YES.
1,5 month of 2006 close to 1 year? NO.
12 months of 2007 close to 1 year? YES.

Overall:
2001 PS2 = 2007 PS3 - 1st YEAR.
2002 PS2 = 2008 PS3 - 2nd YEAR.

I look forward to updated numbers soon!! :=))



Linkzmax said:
As everyone is pointing out. Since you want to omit Japan sales the comparison needs to be altered.

PS2 non-Japan launched in October 2000. Was selling for 2.5 months.
PS3 non-Japan launched in November 2006. Was selling for 1.5 months.

2.5 months of 2000 close to 1 year? NO.
12 months of 2001 close to 1 year? YES.
1,5 month of 2006 close to 1 year? NO.
12 months of 2007 close to 1 year? YES.

Overall:
2001 PS2 = 2007 PS3 - 1st YEAR.
2002 PS2 = 2008 PS3 - 2nd YEAR.

I look forward to updated numbers soon!! :=))

WIN!

 



This thread was even better at pages 3-5. Remember Nutboy? http://vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?id=535709

And this guy was pretty funny too. http://vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?id=537438

It's just too bad we cannot see Rock_On_2008's comments.

And of course, this: http://www.gamekyo.com/news28294_new-nintendo-game-at-today-s-nintendo-private-conf.html

 

This thread has now been going on for 10 months!



http://www.vgchartz.com/games/userreviewdisp.php?id=261

That is VGChartz LONGEST review. And it's NOT Cute Kitten DS

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Can we please close this failthread?



DMeisterJ said:
Can we please close this failthread?

What happened to you? You used to like this thread. http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?id=713012 http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?id=1194245

 

 



http://www.vgchartz.com/games/userreviewdisp.php?id=261

That is VGChartz LONGEST review. And it's NOT Cute Kitten DS

@Crazzy: Sony discontinued the older SKUs and introduced the 40GB PS3 with a lower price point. The only reason for this was to get the price of the PS3 down. If you don't want to call that a price drop then it's pretty we'll simply won't agree on this matter.

About your NA+EU expectations, it really makes no sense to just add up the first 10 months and because they're almost even conclude the holiday sales will be the same as well. You need to look at the trend, and for the Americas PS2 has been increasing the gap steadily across the year, so it seems highly likely it will continue to do so in the holiday season.
For Others PS3 went ahead at the first half of the year, steadily outselling the PS2. But around July the gap stabilized and since October PS2 is starting to outsell the PS3 because its sales jumped upwards from around 70k a week to over 100k a week. And from this week forward its sales will increase week after week, so unless PS3 is seeing even bigger increases the gap will continue to decrease. Which means that even if it somehow does manage to stay close to PS2 in Others it still means for the Americas and Others combined it will be outsold by the PS2.



Oyvoyvoyv said:
DMeisterJ said:
Can we please close this failthread?

What happened to you? You used to like this thread. http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?id=713012 http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?id=1194245

 

 

 

A few weeks ago he changed his posting tone, went from joke account behaviour to real poster.

I like the new DMJ better, to be honest.

Personally, I'd rather the thread stayed open. It's obvious at this point the whole of it is either nothing but a monument to the deranged mind of crazzy or a testament of his will playing a character. Anyways, it's funny to watch the repeated attempts of some people at reasoning with him.





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Linkzmax,

CrazzyMan said:
2. 2008 is 2nd PS3 year just like 2001 is 2nd PS2 year.

PS2 1st year life: Jpn - 10 months / Ame - 2.5mth / Eu - 1.5mth
BUT it is still 10 months of console LIFE, 10 months, during which developers were developing games for PS2.

PS3 1st year life: Jpn - 13 months / Ame - 13.5mth / Eu - 9 months
BUT it is still only 13 months of console LIFE.
Only 13 months, during which developers were developing games.

YES, it`s PS3 ADVANTAGE that it was selling more time during it`s first year in regions like US and EU.

BUT

come on, DOES it FAIR to compare console, which launched at 600$ price with console at 300$??? NO!

So, it`s a COMPROMISE.
CrazzyMan said:
Again:
PS3 (NA+EU) sales in 2008 = PS2 (NA+EU) sales in 2001

That isn't a 1 week thing, that is a trend.
YEAH, in JAPAN PS3 wasn`t doing good compared to PS2 WHOLE YEAR.
That is a TREND, INDEED,
AND that`s why i wrote about Japan apart from NA+EU, since that Japan Trend has chances to change in better way for PS3.
JUST like US+EU trend may change in worse way for PS3 during last 10 weeks of 2008.

Now, to be clear:

PS3 in 2008 is not doing WW as good(equal WW) as PS2 in 2001, because of poor sales in JAPAN only, while EU and NA sales COMPENSATE each other.

@koffieboon, NEW SKU =/= pricedrop. This is just a FACT. Pricedrop - when one product get price down, and 40Gb model is a different product. It`s just like saying, 20Gb model was pricedroped at launch, since it costed 500$, while 60Gb model 600$. Just plain stupid.

About Others, new games like LBP, Resistance, Motorstorm and other are only on the way of release + add bundles. then popularity of blu-ray = WIN. The sales WILL increase.



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far