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The staggered launch may be skewing the numbers big time.

If you look at the Total Hardward from Lauch Chart for PS2 vs. PS3 -- they track very closely. (And the Wii is killing both).

But if you look at each region -- the PS2 is easily outpacing the PS3 (and the Wii is generally on par with PS2).

Thus, you can make CrazzyMan's arguement -- but if you dig deep, it is not as accurate.

Links below:

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=Japan&cons2=PS3&reg2=Japan&cons3=PS2&reg3=Japan&weeks=104

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=America&cons2=PS3&reg2=America&cons3=PS2&reg3=America&weeks=104


http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=Total+Other&cons2=PS3&reg2=Total+Other&cons3=PS2&reg3=Total+Other&weeks=104

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=All&cons2=PS3&reg2=All&cons3=PS2&reg3=All&weeks=104

Mike from Morgantown



      


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@mike_intellivision, well you see, comparing by regions doesn`t bring nothing usefull.

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=Europe&cons2=PS3&reg2=Europe&cons3=PS2&reg3=Europe&weeks=52
PS3 is above PS2 and Wii. So what does it prove? Nothing.

While comparing lifetime sales can show how good/bad console selling WW since it`s launch. =)



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

Crazzy, you didn't consider the holiday season, which would occur in a few weeks for the Wii, pushing it far above the PS3, in only 5 weeks.

@mike - The point of this thread is to compare 2001 PS2 sales to 2008 PS3 sales. Not to compare LTD sales, or anything else. Basically, Crazzy wants to see how close the PS3 gets to 16 million sold in 2008.



@Stever89, and @mike doesn`t consider MANY other factors, when comparing by regions. That was the POINT. =)

That`s why sales from 1st launch matter more, then region sales.
Well, i also comparing 2nd year PS2 Life sales with 2nd year PS3 Life sales. =)



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

@Crazzy.

I would consider Mike's more acceptable than yours, as he has an extra year, and therefore shows if there are any bumps later on. You don't.

He should have done Europe not total other though, as Ps3 had wide there.



http://www.vgchartz.com/games/userreviewdisp.php?id=261

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Crazzy

I disagree.

For eight months, PS2 was only available in Japan. Then eight months later was released about the same time in Americas and Others.

http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=PS2&reg1=Japan&cons2=PS2&reg2=America&cons3=PS2&reg3=Total+Other&start=36527&end=36891&weekly=1

PS3 was released at virtually the same time in Japan and Americas, then four months later in Others.

http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=PS3&reg1=Japan&cons2=PS3&reg2=America&cons3=PS3&reg3=Total+Other&start=39019&end=39180&weekly=1

That time difference in releases does make a difference in the comparisons. After four months, the PS3 numbers are for all regions vs. PS2 for one region. That's why the regional comparisons are more telling. (The Wii numbers were included for reference because in both Japan and Amercans, the Wii and PS3 were released at about the same time. But they are not germane to this conversation).

Thus, I conclude that the PS3 is doing OK. It should pass the X360, probably this year.

But the PS3 is not doing PS2 type of numbers though and will not reach the numbers of the PS2. It will take a lot for any console to reach 125M again -- unless China and India buy a lot. But given global economic times, purchases of this type may be restricted. Furthermore, the PS2 is the only sequel console in history to outsell its predessor when the previous console was the market leader -- so it is a unique piece of hardware.

Mike from Morgantown



      


I am Mario.


I like to jump around, and would lead a fairly serene and aimless existence if it weren't for my friends always getting into trouble. I love to help out, even when it puts me at risk. I seem to make friends with people who just can't stay out of trouble.

Wii Friend Code: 1624 6601 1126 1492

NNID: Mike_INTV

@ Mike

During that time, Ps2 was stockpilling for launch, while Ps3 was in a small supply problem during that time.

I agree with you anyway though, this is just a small fact.



http://www.vgchartz.com/games/userreviewdisp.php?id=261

That is VGChartz LONGEST review. And it's NOT Cute Kitten DS

@Crazy have you updated the PS3 numbers updated for the last two months... i think it is a reasonable update.



Steve (and Crazzy)

I get the purpose now. I was not trying to be disagreeing. My only complaint with the PS3 is that they eliminated B/C -- which put it much lower on my priority list.

I think it will end up the top HD console of this generation.

I will restrict my future discussion in this thread to 2001 of PS2 vs. 2008 of PS3.

Mike from Morgantown



      


I am Mario.


I like to jump around, and would lead a fairly serene and aimless existence if it weren't for my friends always getting into trouble. I love to help out, even when it puts me at risk. I seem to make friends with people who just can't stay out of trouble.

Wii Friend Code: 1624 6601 1126 1492

NNID: Mike_INTV

The PS3 can do 16,000,000 this year if it gets a price drop soon to $299. They should do it before GTAIV, especially if the 360 does it first.