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curl-6 on 13 September 2012
zarx said:
curl-6 said:
I'm still of the opinion that "three Broadways" outs this as fake.

Why in the world would they beef up a CPU based on 1990s technology when it would be much simpler to just to use a modern one, even if it's not the most powerful one money can buy? (Easy backwards compatibility I suppose, but really, doesn't seem worth it) It's like tying three horses together and feeding them steroids instead of just buying a damn car.


Well to be fair it says 3 "enhanced Broadway" cores, enhanced could mean anything including TBH including adding some Power 7 tech to it. Not to say it is real, but IBM did say that it was a custom CPU with tech from Whatson/Power 7. It could be that Nintendo got IBM to create a custom CPU derived from Power 7 but with Broadway feature parity for hardware backwards compatability. If the enhanced Broadway stuff is tru I don't think it would literally mean 3 Broadway cores. 

I guy on GAF who had aparently been mod verified as having access to a Wii U dev kitt said that the term "enhanced Broadway" was used in technical documents from Nintendo. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=41438117&postcount=195

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=41437121&postcount=186

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=36333855&postcount=8989

Could it still be considered a Broadway, enhanced or not, if they aded POWER 7 tech to it? I mean, we're talking about a chip effectively built in 1998 here. Even with 3, wouldn't you have to virtually rebuild it to get it to run a game like Assassin's Creed 3? To stick with the three horses analogy, no matter how many steroids you feed them, they couldn't tow a semitrailer.



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curl-6 on 13 September 2012

According to the Japanese Nintendo Direct 1GB FOR THE OS!!!???

And people said 512MB was absurdly high.
W...T...F...



Pokemonbrawlvg on 13 September 2012

Things confirmed:
2GB RAM: 1GB for games, 1GB for the OS
22.5MB/S Blu Ray drive speed
32GB flash memory in the premium, 8GB in the standard
Will feature a GPGPU

Damn, this thread was off. Expected. This information was confirmed from the latest Nintendo Direct.



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Play4Fun on 13 September 2012
curl-6 said:
According to the Japanese Nintendo Direct 1GB FOR THE OS!!!???

And people said 512MB was absurdly high.
W...T...F...


Probably Nintendo over compensating for the multitasking and whatever else the system will be doing.

2GB total RAm makes me happy, cause I have no doubt they will eventually free up some of that 1GB for the OS towards gaming software.

And Iwata confirmed GPGPU. YEAH!



curl-6 on 13 September 2012
Play4Fun said:
curl-6 said:
According to the Japanese Nintendo Direct 1GB FOR THE OS!!!???

And people said 512MB was absurdly high.
W...T...F...


Probably Nintendo over compensating for the multitasking and whatever else the system will be doing.

2GB total RAm makes me happy, cause I have no doubt they will eventually free up some of that 1GB for the OS towards gaming software.

And Iwata confirmed GPGPU. YEAH!

Bold: Hope so, though it doesn't sound like a Nintendo thing to do

Italic: Could this be the reason for the modest CPU, that many tasks the 360/PS3 do on the CPU can be done on the GPU with Wii U?



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ninetailschris on 13 September 2012

RUMOR OFFICIALLY FALSE!



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zarx on 13 September 2012
curl-6 said:
zarx said:
curl-6 said:
I'm still of the opinion that "three Broadways" outs this as fake.

Why in the world would they beef up a CPU based on 1990s technology when it would be much simpler to just to use a modern one, even if it's not the most powerful one money can buy? (Easy backwards compatibility I suppose, but really, doesn't seem worth it) It's like tying three horses together and feeding them steroids instead of just buying a damn car.


Well to be fair it says 3 "enhanced Broadway" cores, enhanced could mean anything including TBH including adding some Power 7 tech to it. Not to say it is real, but IBM did say that it was a custom CPU with tech from Whatson/Power 7. It could be that Nintendo got IBM to create a custom CPU derived from Power 7 but with Broadway feature parity for hardware backwards compatability. If the enhanced Broadway stuff is tru I don't think it would literally mean 3 Broadway cores. 

I guy on GAF who had aparently been mod verified as having access to a Wii U dev kitt said that the term "enhanced Broadway" was used in technical documents from Nintendo. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=41438117&postcount=195

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=41437121&postcount=186

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=36333855&postcount=8989

Could it still be considered a Broadway, enhanced or not, if they aded POWER 7 tech to it? I mean, we're talking about a chip effectively built in 1998 here. Even with 3, wouldn't you have to virtually rebuild it to get it to run a game like Assassin's Creed 3? To stick with the three horses analogy, no matter how many steroids you feed them, they couldn't tow a semitrailer.


Likely they would be closer to power 7 I would think, it's definately got the Power 7 cache and likely the added SMT capabilities, out-of-orderinstruction execution etc. Just with the Broadband's custom instruction set extentions, DMA, etc for backwards compatability. At a wild guess anyway IBM said it was a custom CPU bassed on Power 7 tech so it makes sense for Nintendo to have had it customised to support all the features of Broadway for backwards compatability. While also adding the advanced features of the more modern CPU. 



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Play4Fun on 13 September 2012
curl-6 said:
Play4Fun said:
curl-6 said:
According to the Japanese Nintendo Direct 1GB FOR THE OS!!!???

And people said 512MB was absurdly high.
W...T...F...


Probably Nintendo over compensating for the multitasking and whatever else the system will be doing.

2GB total RAm makes me happy, cause I have no doubt they will eventually free up some of that 1GB for the OS towards gaming software.

And Iwata confirmed GPGPU. YEAH!

Bold: Hope so, though it doesn't sound like a Nintendo thing to do

Italic: Could this be the reason for the modest CPU, that many tasks the 360/PS3 do on the CPU can be done on the GPU with Wii U?

They did something similar with 3DS when they unlocked the second core, which was for OS, so devs could use it for games. LINK



ninetailschris on 13 September 2012
zarx said:
curl-6 said:
zarx said:
curl-6 said:
I'm still of the opinion that "three Broadways" outs this as fake.

Why in the world would they beef up a CPU based on 1990s technology when it would be much simpler to just to use a modern one, even if it's not the most powerful one money can buy? (Easy backwards compatibility I suppose, but really, doesn't seem worth it) It's like tying three horses together and feeding them steroids instead of just buying a damn car.


Well to be fair it says 3 "enhanced Broadway" cores, enhanced could mean anything including TBH including adding some Power 7 tech to it. Not to say it is real, but IBM did say that it was a custom CPU with tech from Whatson/Power 7. It could be that Nintendo got IBM to create a custom CPU derived from Power 7 but with Broadway feature parity for hardware backwards compatability. If the enhanced Broadway stuff is tru I don't think it would literally mean 3 Broadway cores. 

I guy on GAF who had aparently been mod verified as having access to a Wii U dev kitt said that the term "enhanced Broadway" was used in technical documents from Nintendo. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=41438117&postcount=195

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=41437121&postcount=186

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=36333855&postcount=8989

Could it still be considered a Broadway, enhanced or not, if they aded POWER 7 tech to it? I mean, we're talking about a chip effectively built in 1998 here. Even with 3, wouldn't you have to virtually rebuild it to get it to run a game like Assassin's Creed 3? To stick with the three horses analogy, no matter how many steroids you feed them, they couldn't tow a semitrailer.


Likely they would be closer to power 7 I would think, it's definately got the Power 7 cache and likely the added SMT capabilities, out-of-orderinstruction execution etc. Just with the Broadband's custom instruction set extentions, DMA, etc for backwards compatability. At a wild guess anyway IBM said it was a custom CPU bassed on Power 7 tech so it makes sense for Nintendo to have had it customised to support all the features of Broadway for backwards compatability. While also adding the advanced features of the more modern CPU. 


Looks like Neogaf guy is a fake because most of what he said on there contradicted a lot of what was said on direct.

I believe there using a Power7 like IBM said but has properies of Broadway to have backwared capiabilities.



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Play4Fun on 13 September 2012
ninetailschris said:
zarx said:
curl-6 said:
zarx said:
curl-6 said:
I'm still of the opinion that "three Broadways" outs this as fake.

Why in the world would they beef up a CPU based on 1990s technology when it would be much simpler to just to use a modern one, even if it's not the most powerful one money can buy? (Easy backwards compatibility I suppose, but really, doesn't seem worth it) It's like tying three horses together and feeding them steroids instead of just buying a damn car.


Well to be fair it says 3 "enhanced Broadway" cores, enhanced could mean anything including TBH including adding some Power 7 tech to it. Not to say it is real, but IBM did say that it was a custom CPU with tech from Whatson/Power 7. It could be that Nintendo got IBM to create a custom CPU derived from Power 7 but with Broadway feature parity for hardware backwards compatability. If the enhanced Broadway stuff is tru I don't think it would literally mean 3 Broadway cores. 

I guy on GAF who had aparently been mod verified as having access to a Wii U dev kitt said that the term "enhanced Broadway" was used in technical documents from Nintendo. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=41438117&postcount=195

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=41437121&postcount=186

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=36333855&postcount=8989

Could it still be considered a Broadway, enhanced or not, if they aded POWER 7 tech to it? I mean, we're talking about a chip effectively built in 1998 here. Even with 3, wouldn't you have to virtually rebuild it to get it to run a game like Assassin's Creed 3? To stick with the three horses analogy, no matter how many steroids you feed them, they couldn't tow a semitrailer.


Likely they would be closer to power 7 I would think, it's definately got the Power 7 cache and likely the added SMT capabilities, out-of-orderinstruction execution etc. Just with the Broadband's custom instruction set extentions, DMA, etc for backwards compatability. At a wild guess anyway IBM said it was a custom CPU bassed on Power 7 tech so it makes sense for Nintendo to have had it customised to support all the features of Broadway for backwards compatability. While also adding the advanced features of the more modern CPU. 


Looks like Neogaf guy is a fake because most of what he said on there contradicted a lot of what was said on direct.

I believe there using a Power7 like IBM said but has properies of Broadway to have backwared capiabilities.

Uh, no. What the neogaf guy said was pretty much the same thing said by Iwata.

1GB main system memory for games. GPGPU.

The source for that leak even went into that thread and said the info was incomplete (they left out memory for the OS).