One doesn't have to be a frothing-at-the-mouth Sony hater to be negative about all this, all that takes is a realist.

This is the main problem of Sony. It reminds me to the PIGS economy problems, too much debt, too little profit to pay those debts.

Thanks for seeing that, a lot of bias here. And even someone trying to defend kowenicki and BLAME ME for spinning. That post of kowenicki was really not needed. I perceive it as a personal attack, does he think I can't read?

This thread has derailed.

Stepping aside from Turkish and Kowenicki's discussion, it's really hard to believe how bad was/is the management at Sony.

Yes, the engineers have authority, so what? They can't do anything without money and that money comes from the bosses.

How does Sony operate? I mean, most "normal" companies give their divisions a X amount of funds for their projects for the whole quarter or fiscal year. If they need more they don't just spend it, they ask their bosses if they can have it and why, and then the bosses decide.

In my opinion, if Hirai wants to succeed with their plan the first thing he has to do is take out the control of the money from engineers/divisions and have just 1 group of people control them all, under the supervision of the chairmans. And if someone doesn't agree with that vision or doesn't want to work like that... well, the doors are open.

No, he thinks that you spin. And most people agree.

And thats why AbbattheGrimm and Dgc have been defending me with arguments rather than accusing me.

Two people don't make a majority. You are known in this and other forums, some people will defend you, but most people won't, and it's known what are you going to say about anything Sony related before you express it.

Some time ago I thought you were paid to do this work, but now I'm sure that you should do all by yourself, no one could do community manager job this badly and get paid.

Some Sony fans are going to defend him, of course. That's why I said most people.