it cracks me up that you start like this " As someone who is not bias "

then go on to push your opinion as a fact and last i checked there are many features present in gt 5 absent from forza such as varied track types ( snow, rally etc ), day-night cycling, track creator etc but thats been done to death already

ot anyway from the list i'd probably go with burnout because in terms of raw fun i'd say its more appealling than games like gt and forza

Not bias about this at all but you can believe what you want.  I dont like Gran Turismo 5 and yes I own it. Yeah it has snow driving which is cool I guess but for a game that took 6 years to make I was expecting a lot more out of it.  Burnout is ok as well, never got into it all that much.  Mario Kart 6 is my least fav mario kart Ive played, I love Mario Kart 7 though.  I guess it's considered next gen though.  Motor Storm was a great launch title but as most launch titles they dont compare to games that come out later in the gen.  most Wanted was the last NFS I've owned and it was ok.  Still my fav NFS is Underground though.  Dirt really isn't my style but it's good as well.  Before you assume things I have played almost every one of these games on this list.  Forza has been the best racer this gen.  91 metacritic to GT5 84.  Yes GT5 had new features but the fact that you can't customize cars was a big deal.  The fact that it had copied a lot of grant turismo 4's cars and just copied and pasted them in to give them more cars.  Granted I haven't played this game since it's big update but I do own this game and bought a steering wheel with it, I just wasn't impressed.  Also one last game that I want to talk about is shift.  While it's not as good as either GT or Forza it's still a good game and I'm surprised it wasnt on the list

I take that back I actually got NFS:Carbon and NFS: Shift 2 so Most wanted wasnt the last one ive owned

Give me Mario Kart. I think realistic racers are boring.